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Oh ok, I’d assumed Barnes could offer a suggestion and we can move forward from there. But whatever floats your boat.
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Hugo
“I’ve been here for maybe a week,” Hugo replied, “but it feels like ages. I’m still not entirely used to it yet.”
He said this sympathetically. Victor probably didn’t know much about the place. After all, the school was incredibly huge and there were new dimensions to it everywhere you looked.
Something moved on the floor. Hugo glanced down, and quickly pulled up his feet. “Oh, goodness.”
The shadow of a cartoon creature waved up at him, without any source. It turned its head, ears flopping slightly.
“Did you come from a human Toon?” Hugo asked without thinking.
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Some of the people in Hugo’s world are called Toons, so that’s why he’s asking. :p They function pretty differently from Benny, though.
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*Reads a little bit*
*Loves it*
*Makes a mental note to read more, and subscribes*
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My thinking cap is at your disposal!
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My calculations also show that your profile pic is in complete harmony with the words you have articulated
Hehehehehehehe
If Emotional Side were here, she would probably laugh, but again, she’s too busy being pathetic.
Emotional sides are not pathetic, my dear KPer. They are the path to discovering ourselves. 😁
Edit: A path, not the only path. *Throws wisdom around like glitter*
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I used to be pretty combative. I’ve learned to be nice, after much trial and error. And belonging to a class where each of the eight students, my besties, are from eight different kinds of churches. They gave me a lot of character development. XD
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😳 *Blushes* Errr… Well, it’s the result of too much experience in debates. 😅♥️ I appreciate the compliment, and I don’t think anyone here is acting too meanly. It’s pretty normal to feel triggered when your own beliefs are questioned. I feel that way all the time.
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I now step out of further discussion on this front XD
Lol I respect that. XD I also see how praying to Mary isn’t worship for a lot of believers.
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Oh I’m not leaving!
I think I might be able to rephrase what the others are saying. To us, it’s strange to pray to Mary because it is never mentioned in the Bible. It always says we should pray to God, it never says to pray to anyone else.
Acts 9:36-41: Peter prays to Tabitha, a disciple who had died. Hm, why would he pray to a dead man? Oh, maybe this is one reason!
If you read that passage, it says Tabitha died. Peter started praying in the same room, then turned to Tabitha and tells her to get up. It seems a lot like Peter prayed to God, asking Him to raise Tabitha from her deathbed.
Revelation 5:8; 8:3-4: Saints and angels present prayers to God in heaven. They present the prayers TO God and prayer for us.
These passages say nothing about living saints praying to dead saints. It says the saints are praying to God. ‘Saints’ refers to believers.
Do you have any other passages to share? I bet there are more passages since this is such an old part of Catholic tradition.
😬 I disagree with this a little. You cannot go off JUST the Bible, you need prayer too. And plus others can teach you a lot about God. So no, I do not “just” believe in the Bible.
This is probably where the discussion will have to end, because we’ve now found the basis for our difference. I believe in one source of authority – God’s Holy Word. (Prayer is a part of the Word, we’re talking about how the Word tells us to pray.) You believe in multiple authorities.
The concept of authority is a lot harder to debate, because every argument would be circular reasoning, so this is as far as we can go . 😅 I would love to hear other passages within the Bible which are proofs for your beliefs, though!
I would say that it would be Rae with the flame thrower…
Hehe
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See y’all, Stephie gets me
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😂😂 Accurate. I wondered if this topic was going to come up. The best part is, I’m a Protestant but I’m totally clocking out of this conversation. 🤣
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I’m not going to say anything about the prayer-through-saints idea, but I will say the Catholic church has magnificent art and culture which I respect.
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