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Well, I think speculating about romance is not helpful to anyone and builds up more false expectations. I think it is important, as is often reiterated, to ‘write what you know.”
This doesn’t mean, obviously, to write a story exactly like yours, or that you can only write about experiences you have felt. However, I do think you should write a love story using what you know about love- what you’ve felt, even for a parent or a best friend, what you’ve seen, in real life, not in hollywood. I think the problem with a lot of love stories today is that they are just plain unrealistic and unhealthy. They don’t help anyone learn from them because there is nothing practical about the character’s depth of emotion; it is an alternate universe of human nature, so often.off the top of my head, words I’m currently quite fond of.
lilting
effervescent
pariah
cacophony
melancholy
scintilla
murmur. because it sounds like one.and I use ‘tangible’ way too much.
The only Henty books I’ve read are In Freedom’s Cause and Treasure of the Incas. How do those compare with the repetition/character flatness of his other works, in you all’s opinions?
Everything they said pretty much. I haven’t been here long, but I already love it.
Morally perfect characters don’t leave room for any character arcs, and when character driven stories are my favorite kind, that presents an issue.
I think flawed characters who still strive to better themselves are ideal.
I’ve read books from the perspective of very cynical characters, and they were interesting and sometimes relatable; but then, there was no redeeming point. There was no acknowledgement of the flaws at hand, either by the author, narrator, or main character. There was no attempt towards character development. Just a book long rant of a teenage superiority. Yeah, that’s not my favorite thing. Though I’m very open minded and I’m sure there are some good books with that issue, but usually when there are, it’s because we learn from them, in which case the author would indeed be acknowledging the flaws, however subtly, so….
Some, many, classic older books tend to have the morally perfect character with one flaw thrown in that needs to be ironed out. Once that flaw is indeed remedied, they all live happily ever after, the preachy moral of the story has been dished out, and it’s all good. Alright, that’s fine. They are not trying to write like today’s books. The character aren’t realistic or relatable, because they aren’t three dimension- they are just tools to get the lesson across. They are just there to embody something, but they aren’t much in themselves. Some of these type books are very good, and they do have their place, perhaps a bedtime story or a family devotional. But I personally don’t like this at all, and I know if I saw it in modern fiction, it wouldn’t be labeled as a great thing, it’d be amateur. It’s just a sign of the times, and that’s okay. But yeah. I wouldn’t encourage emulating this. At all.
@Hannah. Huzzah fellow kid-book fan. 😉 What are some of your favorites?
As to the subject of Redwall, I’ve accumulated quite a few of them due to garage sales and book swaps. And I’ve got to admit, I’ve never finished a single one, though I mean to eventually. Hannah , your description of them sounds quite favorable, and they have been interesting, so hopefully I will plug through the series sometime soon.
@The Happy Bookaholic, first off, fantastic username. Secondly, Lord of the Flies is a lovely book and I sincerely enjoyed it. I don’t know if it’s my favorite, just because there are so many other books I’m more familiar with and fond of, but I love the style and ideas it conveys. I’ve only read it once, but I remember really liking it.
Of course! I love finding interesting and writerly pinterests
What is this kingdom pen speak you speak of? xP
So, is your current WIP about?*pokes topic* this needs to be awakened.
okaaay so favorites. Erm, I have quite a few so I’ll just mention my recent favorites or what ones I love that come to mind. I have so many beloved books that this list is only skimming them: if you would like a recommendation, do ask and give specifics and I’d looovee to recommend something suited.
In no order, favorite novels.
Ender’s Game, by Orson Scott Card.
Code Name Verity, by Elizabeth Wein.
Perks of Being A Wallflower, by Stephen Chobsky. Eleanor and Park, by Rainbow Rowell. TFIOS by John Green (fight me) (not really, don’t fight me, but I’m open for debate)
Little Women, by Louisa May Alcott.
The Lunar Chronicles, by Marissa Meyer.
Peter and the Starcatchers, by Dave Barry.
Fahreinheit 451, by Ray Bradbury.
Obviously Lord of the Rings.
And Narnia.
Pride and Predjudice, by Jane Austen
The Giver, by Louis Lowry
A Wrinkle in Time, by Madeline l’Engle
The Book Thief, by Marcus Zusack
The Princess Bride, by William Goldman
The Books of Bayern, by Shannon Hale
1984 by George Orwell
Flowers for Algernon, by Daniel Keyes
The Wide, Wide World by …well, it’s a lamplighter book.More (or, more than the others, since they all are bit youngish at times) childish favorites that are still amazing:
The Mysterious Benedict Society by Trenton Lee Stewart
The Tale of Despereaux, by Kate Dimicallo
Princess Academy, by Shannon Hale.
Holes, by Louis Sachar.
When You Reach Me, by Rebecca Stead.
Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of Nimh. so good.
The Invention of Hugo CabaretFavorite picture books.
The Quiltmaker’s Gift by Jeff Brumbeau
The Punchenello books by Max Lucado
The Princess and the Kiss/The Squire and the Scroll, by Jennie Bishop
Where the Wild Things Are
The Giving Tree, by Shel Silverstein
The Snowy Day, by Ezra Keats
Cordury, by Don Freeman
Silverster and the Magic Pebble, by William Steg
Carrot Seed, by Ruth Strass
Cloudy with A Chance of Meatballs, by Judi Barret
Chrysanthemum, by Kevin Henkes
William Gordon Macdonald PartridgeChildren’s books are are so beautiful and precise when done well and <3
Other:
Tuesdays for Morrie.
The Hiding Place, by Corrie Ten Boom
The Diary of Anne Frank.
Quiet, by Susan Cain.
Blink, by Max Orwell.
Cyrano de Bergerac
Much Ado About Nothing
Kingdom Tales, by David and Karen MainsI have favorite poetry books and and short stories and to-be-read lists if you need them xP
That’s a healthy place to be writing from, both of you- understanding the other viewpoint and your own convictions both is of paramount importance, and I do see both of your points. I agree with both of them, in temperance.
At this point I feel I don’t really have anything to add on in this debate that wouldn’t be redundant or just further clarifying whatever I haven’t properly expressed.So let’s see. What are some tangible examples of zombies and vampire stories put to good use? I’m asking not rhetorically, but because I’d actually like to hear opinions and examples, and why.
(And yes, I’ve heard of Amish vampires in space xP)I.e, I brought up some of Ray Bradbury’s speculative undead short stories earlier, which I enjoyed. They weren’t ‘spiritually enriching’ in a christain way, but they were introspective and thought provoking. They weren’t conventional zombie fiction, but off the top of my head that’s what I think of.
