Otherworldly Historian

@keilah-h

Oh, Esther, sorry 😅

@keilah-h

That’s totally okay! Take your time 😉😊

@power

Wait! So, when God said to be fruitful and multiply, he wasn’t only talking to the berry bushes and mathematicians?! 😋

😂

An idea for your story. Instead of your love interest being the gladiator, have him be a surgeon/medtech of the gladiators.

Okay, yeah! I do like that whole dynamic a lot, not sure if I’ll incorporate it or not, but t…[Read more]

@jonas

All you do is get on voice chat, then share your screen for the most part. I’ll be busy too. I have work most days now, though only in the first half of the day, and I’ll be serving a mission not long from now. That’s awesome that your doing karate!

Maybe we could figure something out in the near future, but I don’t know. I’ll just say…[Read more]

@esther-c @keilah-h

KUN’EN

“Drop your weapons or I won’t hesitate to attack.” Came a deep voice ahead of them. At first, he couldn’t see the forms around the dark corner. Fortunately though, his eyes were used to seeing through dark waters, and they adjusted quickly.

A bellowing laugh escaped his chest when he eventually saw the threat. “Atta…[Read more]

@jonas

Yeah, I do have discord. I don’t use it very much but I have it. You can stream things on discord?

Yeah! I don’t know why I haven’t thought of it before. Although, the question is whether it will stream well, but I’d say it’s worth a shot if you’re up for it!

@thearcaneaxiom @jonas

Perfect!

@jonas

Here’s one

@jonas

I would also say that it depends on the villain’s role. Sometimes you need a sympathetic villain for the story to work. But yeah, in and of themselves, a non-sympathetic villain isn’t a bad thing.

True, of course ignoring the fact that a non-sympathetic villain by definition, is bad😂 (Someone was bound to do this, so I thought it might as…[Read more]

@jonas

This is a very insightful (and off topic) conversation lol. Maybe we should create a new thread. (There probably is one already, actually.)

Yeah 😂

@keilah-h

True, anti-heros are separate from villains. The mere fact that he can be considered an anti-hero can push him over to likeable, though not always.

@princesachronicle22

Yeah, some of these villains you can root for for different reasons. Some are sympathetic with sad backgrounds, others and just intriguing.

@keilah-h @thearcaneaxiom

Half of these references won’t be recognized but I do happen to have a list of villain’s I root for

-Jacks from Caraval

-Darth Vadar/Anakin from Star Wars

-Loki from Marvel

-Kylo Ren also Star Wars

-Katherine from Heartless

@keilah-h

Well I’m sort of referencing the first character you mentioned, but I’m also speaking broadly. There’s plenty of stories where people root for the villain, despite them not being redeemable.

@keilah-h

He’s not truly a “good guy” and does some horrible things, but he’s also not totally evil either, and has depth that makes me think what he might’ve become if things had gone differently for him.

Yes, I like that point. I think that is the main difference between, “tragic backstory” verses “pure evil”

Are they evil because of what has…[Read more]

@princesachronicle22

100% I think Azula is a much more compelling villain, but I still think Ozai is underrated. We don’t know why he’s so evil, but he’s the personification of the evils Zuko and Azula face, so he’s interesting, because they’re interesting, if that makes sense. He’s not so much his own character for this reason, but it works, and…[Read more]

@keilah-h

Yeah, that’s the thing is that even characters that so far gone are characters that sometimes are rooted for the most. They want something, they have a reason for it, and in following them, it makes you like them. This can be the case even when you see nothing redeemable about them.

@thearcaneaxiom

Yeah, Azula is my all time favorite villain. Ozai though… he is a good example of the “pure evil” and I do like those villain types. But he also doesn’t do much, and we know what he wanted but did we really know why he wanted it?

But dear Azula, it was part of her very personality. She manipulated people, she was amazing at it,…[Read more]

😭😅 I wrote a whole villain rant, but KP ate it. And it was like five paragraphs, so I am not writing that again

@jonas @princesachronicle22

Yeah, I think it’s important to remember that it’s never bad for a villain to be non sympathetic, it’s just all in the execution. Azula from Avatar the Last Airbender isn’t really sympathetic in the whole series, but she’s probably the most fascinating and terrifying villain I can think of. Her father, Ozai, is also a…[Read more]

@jonas

Yeah, villain motivations can definitely be hard. With heroes it’s kind of a “duh” they want to stop said villain and keep people safe. MCs are totally subjective but generally that is how we see our heroes.

Sooo, I might just rant about villains for a while? Read at your own risk, or don’t, either works 😂

But that leaves the qu…[Read more]