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@savannah_grace2009 I don’t mind first person.
Most of my scenes involving my charrie Crosshair are written in first person (especially if they don’t really have a story they’re going to be a part of, and I’m just writing them for fun). IDK why, I just like getting inside his rather traumatized head and looking at the story world through his eyes.
Where'd I get ya this time? The liver? The kidney? I'm runnin' outta places to put holes in ya.
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I know! First person books can either be super good or just…cringe..
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Sef&Chase
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LEFSE FOREVER!!!!!! <333@esther-c I write alternately from first or third. It really depends on which you like better. I wouldn’t do it just because that’s the mainstream, though. I also wouldn’t do multiple POV’s from first person, because that would get confusing quickly.
Honestly, I should just start writing the random scenes that show up in my head instead of writing out half of the whole story just to get to them, so I have the opposite problem, and I don’t think what you’re doing is a bad thing in any way.
Where'd I get ya this time? The liver? The kidney? I'm runnin' outta places to put holes in ya.
He’s not actually my charrie lol, so I’m not to blame for most of that trauma btw
Where'd I get ya this time? The liver? The kidney? I'm runnin' outta places to put holes in ya.
I like first person, but I generally prefer third. Some first person books are great, like Alcatraz vs The Evil Librarians, but others annoy me. I generally dislike first person with multiple POVs because then I keep forgetting whose POV I’m in, which could be a problem with the writing. It’s more forgivable in romances, because then you get inside the head of both characters.
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Yeah, makes sense.
Huh…I have always loved multiple POV first person books, because then you get into the head of multiple characters! But I know it can be confusing, it just never has been a problem for me because in my mind, every character has a distinct voice.
Lukas&Livia
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Sef&Chase
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LEFSE FOREVER!!!!!! <333Yeah, plotting is probably one of my weaker points of writing. š The extent to which I plot varies from story to story and Iām not sure if thatās a good thingā¦ XD
Another suggestion would be to try and write the worst first draft you could possibly write. Thatās how my dad got more than 100% on a university level essay.
I may just have to do that, lol.
I would say, just use a lot of Abbie Emmonsā advice (Iām sure youāre probably doing that already though XD) and make everything that happens build the internal conflict more.
Thatās a very good point. š
Thatās a good idea, I think Iāll try that! Iām definitely more comfortable in third person, but it would be interesting to explore their voices through first person.
Ok, thanks!!
Huh, thatās really interesting. Iāve never heard anyone feel about first person that way before. But it makes sense. I guess it depends on the story.
Iām not sure how to help with the plotting part without knowing the story and characters. You said you have character arcs figured out?
Yeah, i think so. Iām still tweaking them a bit and finding ways to improve them though. I donāt have a set theme for the story yet, but I really need to write it down so I can better guide the story and form my characters.
Do you want to hear about their arcs or the general idea for the plot?
I donāt really think Iāll be able to help, cuz Iām completely out of my element when it comes to contemporary.
Oh yeah, true. XD Plotting isnāt much different, it just takes place in a different world. š
I donāt know about the first vs. third person problem, but if you have multiple POV characters, Iād recommend that you stick to third person (mostly because I really dislike first person narration with multiple POVs lol).
Fair. XD I think Iāve only read one series with multiple first person POVs. From what I remember the author did it well, but itās been a hot minute since I last read it. But I think understand how you could dislike it.
Do you have a basic-ish overall plot at all? I think if your novel has an overall basic plot idea, I would say donāt worry too much into it. I donāt know how much depthĀ your characters have, but maybe deepen them further. The more you know about them (and their relationships too) the more the basic plot idea could strengthen, twist, and be affected.
Yeah, basic-ish. Big -ish. XD This story is a lot more character led than any other story Iāve written. (Which I feel like is saying a lot because Iām not a big fan of writing plot-driven stories over character-driven).
I think I get what youāre saying. If I develop the characters deep enough, Iāll know what situations to put them in to grow them and move along the plot. Right? (Or maybe Iām totally off here. XD)
As far as first or third person, I havenāt read many contemporary novels (in either perspective lol), so my advice may not be that great. Personally, Iām more inclined to read third personābut first is great too. š If you mostly write in third, it might be fun to write a book in firstā¦ but considering that you said a lot of contemporary is written in first, first person could be a bit overusedā¦
Yeah, Iām starting to think which pov I choose is mostly preference and if it fits the story or notā¦ Iām definitely more comfortable writing in third, butā¦ Iād be willing to try first. Iāll probably play around with it and see what happens.
I donāt know if that made much sense or if it was even helpful, but those are my thoughts! š
No it was really helpful! Thanks!!
I personally LOVE first person books with multiple povāsā¦.idkā¦they are just so fun!
Me too! Because thereās so much potential for a deep character voice! The best character voice Iāve ever read was inĀ Pudge and PrejudiceĀ byā¦ I forget the authorās name. Her voice was so unique and without that, I think the story would have been not as good.
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I honestly donāt mind multiple POVs from first person, because the time I read it, each chapter was labeled with the characterās name so you knew who was speaking. But yeah, I see how it could get confusing.
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I forgot to tag you a second time in my post. Part of my rely to you is the last quote and paragraph on the post above the post above this one. (Thatās unnecessarily complicatedā¦. XDD)
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Wow. None of my post have been going through. Thanks a lot Wyoh.
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Yup, that’s pretty much what I was saying. XD XD Glad I could help! š
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Huhā¦I have always loved multiple POV first person books, because then you get into the head of multiple characters! But I know it can be confusing, it just never has been a problem for me because in my mind, every character has a distinct voice.
Yeah, maybe the ones I’ve read aren’t very good. I haven’t read many.
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SOOOOOOO i’m currently working on Book 2 (Broken Shackles) of my main Trilogy (the trilogy that only features Leon/Riker as the MCs/POVs throughout all three novels)
but I’m really struggling with the middle of it š©
I’m currently on Chapter 16 and 25k+ words in, but really struggling with what to put in the middle. This book is mainly a book of inner struggles rather than outer struggles, but it’s also hard to write things that I feel will still keep peoples’ attention (I mean, it holds my attention…but I’m also super invested into Leon/Riker XD)
But I also don’t want to rush, bc I feel like that will cheapen Leon/Riker and their struggles, especially the guilt for Riker and the grief for Leon (I meannnn, that’s the entire reason I decided to make it into two novels rather than one, so I wouldn’t have to rush through their struggles to get a novel that wasn’t overly large!!) bc those are real struggles ppl deal with, AND Leon/Riker deserve better themselves š„°
I guess I’m kinda looking for ideas of what to do next; I’m almost to the point where Leon’s alcoholism will begin to get worse (although I’m kinda wondering what will make that happen) and is going to begin to affect his relationship with Louisa and, š, even with his kids.
And Riker?? Wellllll, Riker is just in a bad place in general. Idk exactly where his guilt/shame will take him, but I know he is just in a very bad place mentally, spiritually, and even physically (since he’s living with his abusive father…Franz is justš”).
so yeahhhh, that’s where I’m atš
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Ooh, Iām kinda struggling with something similar with a new WIP idea.
What Iāve been starting to notice is that you have to weigh the importance of each scene. Is each scene impacting the MCs arc in some way? How does it move along the plot? And sometimes some scenes will feel slow, but thatās not always a bad thing. Brainstorm scenes that will either push Leon and Riker further into their darkness or start to pull them out. What scenes will help from their arcs and bring them more realism and impact? What types of scenes will be important later on in the story or teach your MCs lessons?
I think that all makes senseā¦ XD Itās something Iām slowly learning as Iām writing a book that has a lot less āactionā than my other books.
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