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@rochellaine, I’m pretty sure its the Buell theatre in CO.
@seekjustice, its a almost year late birthday present that I have tried really hard not to be impatient for. But now thanks to you I’m going to be thinking about Jonas…WIP - Decisions
Kapeefer til we're old and greyWell, I should be researching the French Revolution, but instead I’m sick in bed reading about whether or not Disney princesses are bad for girls. Are any of you guys watchers of Disney?
@rochellaine WHOOOHOOOO
@alia Very good 😛 That’ll make you cry all the more!
@catwing how’s your editing?INFP Queen of the Kingdom commander of an army of origami cranes and a sabre from Babylon.
@seekjustice, I watch Disney. What does the thing you’re reading say about why it might be bad?
thanks, I might actually cry since I never actually do. All I have to do is think about Jonas, Waif, Rain, Sapphire…*grabs box of tissues*
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Kapeefer til we're old and greyGreat! How’s poor Bathshua now? Is she still miserable?
Yes, I’m a fan of Disney. Not as much as I once was but I still like many of the classics. So what is the conclusion? 😛
They just say thing like princesses hold up beauty as the absolute virtue of a woman, promote that you can only be happy if a man loves you, reinforce gender stereotypes and unrealistic body images. etcetera, etcetera.
I was just curious because I didn’t grow up watching Disney movies, so I can’t really have an opinion on whether they’re bad for girls or not 😛
😀 If an author ruins your life, I count that as the hallmark of a successful author.
INFP Queen of the Kingdom commander of an army of origami cranes and a sabre from Babylon.
@rochellaine They are adorable. 😉 (Hope you hand is better soon)
Currently they are 7 & 9 months (You may think of what I thought when I was thinking about that. XP), a doeling and a wether.
They’re fun. One was rubbing her head against my hand. If I can teach her to do it on cue… Fist/face bump! 😛
But they are not a horse… ;P
I am immune to poison ivy. I think. I picked up some dried leaves to feed to the goats (because she was having trouble getting to it). I also don’t remember itching from poison ivy either…
@jenwriter17 depends… we’ll see.
Yeessss, we a real farm now. Chickens and goats.
The little darlings be sleeping in the barn/structure-thing.
@seekjustice They are. ^.^
It going well.
@Alia I had my betas read through and I waited forever to go through the comments. I have learned not to do that. It feels enormous and then it’s been a while since they read it. Learn from my mistakes!
Oh, nice. 🙂
@valtmy It going good.IMMA KAPEEFER! Til we're old and gray!
@seekjustice Warning: Rant ahead. 😛
I get so annoyed when people put up those memes like the ones about Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, like “finds dead body in the woods; Kisses it.” I mean, it’s like those people forgot the whole plot of the movie! Both of those princes had already met and fallen in love with the girls, and the girls as well, so it was totally not weird for the guys to kiss them. Saying that Cinderella is a bad role model because she allows herself to be trampled on is silly too, because she can be a role model for how to be happy in hard times and how to be sweet when others are mean to you.
Modern ones like Rapunzel, though, I might have a different opinion about. 😉
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The opinions are quite divided 😀
INFP Queen of the Kingdom commander of an army of origami cranes and a sabre from Babylon.
I do find it very difficult to believe in true love at first sight though. 😛 I can’t even keep up a conversation of small talk with someone I’ve only met once 😀
I do have a serious question for you: How is Cinderella purposefully disobeying her stepmother’s explicit order that she is not to go the ball different to Rapunzel disobeying her…guardian’s order not to go outside?
INFP Queen of the Kingdom commander of an army of origami cranes and a sabre from Babylon.
@seekjustice, for the beauty/gender/bod image stereotypes I think that its the same things we see in regular movies with the perfect actors and actresses. As for beauty being the main virtue, I’m pretty sure Cinderella is about kindness and forgiveness. And Mulan, she could have cared less if Shan ever came back to ask her father for permission to court her at the end of the movie.
I actually had a conversation similar to this last week with my youth group because (note they are all guys) they hadn’t actually watched the movies.
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Kapeefer til we're old and grey@seekjustice, Cinderella had permission if she cleaned the house and had a decent outfit. She couldn’t go to the ball in the end because her step-sisters ruined her dress. According to the Disney version
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Kapeefer til we're old and grey@Seekjustice I think I have seen all of them, except Mulan and Moana. I suppose there is good and bad in them. I don’t think they have negatively affected me… Tinker Bell on the other hand. If you don’t believe in fairies, your fairy dies. To cure a fairy, say I believe in fairies a few times. When I wasn’t sure if fairies existed or not I didn’t want to not believe in them in case they were real and I had just killed my fairy… Poor younger conflicted self. Shame you marketing.
I do remember when I had to do chores I didn’t like I just thought of myself as Cinderella and that helped. Cause I’d get a happy ending or something (but I don’t think this ever involved a guy. Sometimes riding a horse or playing with an animal or being crowned princess for whatever reason). I have been crowned princess actually(Medieval Times). XDIMMA KAPEEFER! Til we're old and gray!
I admit to being the tomboy who scorned Disney movies and read about real princesses and queens when I was little (and still do, to be honest!). And yes, I definitely agree that ALL movies, at least that I’ve seen, promote unrealistic body images and I don’t think Disney is better or worse in that regard.
Okay, its been a long time since I’ve seen Cinderella, so the details escape me. I guess I just always felt very sorry for Rapunzel because I would much rather be married off in a proxy marriage at age fourteen and have a weird husband than to never be allowed outside. That seems like the worst punishment available to mankind. I mean, poor Rapunzel doesn’t even have a good library, a laptop or secure wifi connection!
INFP Queen of the Kingdom commander of an army of origami cranes and a sabre from Babylon.
So there’s a positive thing regarding Cinderella! (Whereas, I probably wanted to cut off someone’s head if I had to do a chore I didn’t like. 😛 )
Ah, I’ve never liked Tinkerbell, simply because I was an Enlightened Child who’d read Peter Pan and knew exactly what a….horrible person Tinker bell was. And, as already stated, I scorned fairies (excepting the Arthurian type of fairy).
So maybe I’m the one with the disturbed childhood?
INFP Queen of the Kingdom commander of an army of origami cranes and a sabre from Babylon.
@seekjustice Copy @alia’s answer, and add that Cinderella’s figure and face indicate that she is at least eighteen years old, a legal adult, and while that may not be moral grounds for disobedience, it is legal. Then, you also have the fact that Lady Tremain never adopted Cinderella (probably not legally, and certainly not into her heart,) and so she was not really a mother figure, but simply a guardian until Cinderella was eighteen. Morally, Cinderella should have respect, which she did, but she also knew her father would be fine with the ball, and I think it’s ok.
As for love at first sight, well, I believe in it. 😉 No, it doesn’t happen very often, but I like fantastical and dream-like stories to feed the imagination, as long as the children know they’re fake.
And they’re not all love at first sight anyway. 😛
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