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Oh, also, is it the orb in Secret History? If not, could you at least mention where itās found?
He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.
Yeah, Invested Art is basically the in-universe term for magic system. I havenāt read LM either. I think Harmony was talking about having a difficult time acting due to the conflicting intents in the other WaW books.
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š Appreciator of BooksWait, what orb?
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š Appreciator of BooksOh wait, you mean the orb that Kelsier used to take the shard of Preservation? I think that was some sort of invention by those people he stole it from. I donāt think it has anything to do with a Dawnshard. The only thing I referenced from SH was the line where Leras says āSURVIVEā in all caps. Let me find where that is.
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š Appreciator of BooksYeah, Invested Art is basically the in-universe term for magic system. I havenāt read LM either. I think Harmony was talking about having a difficult time acting due to the conflicting intents in the other WaW books.
Thatās true. He did make a point that in character, he favors preservation, but in nature, he must yield to balance.
Oh wait, you mean the orb that Kelsier used to take the shard of Preservation? I think that was some sort of invention by those people he stole it from. I donāt think it has anything to do with a Dawnshard. The only thing I referenced from SH was the line where Leras says āSURVIVEā in all caps. Let me find where that is.
I remember the SURVIVE, Iām just wondering who held the other Dawnshard you were talking about.
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Okay so pg 333 in my copy of Arcanum Unbounded. Part 6 Chapter 4 of SH.
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š Appreciator of BooksIām just wondering who held the other Dawnshard you were talking about.
Oh, that. Hoid used to have a Dawnshard. I donāt remember where that is stated, though. Thatās why he canāt hurt people. His dawnshard is characterized as being ādiametrically opposed to harm.ā That really sounds like the Survive dawnshard to me.
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š Appreciator of BooksOhhhh, interesting, but makes a whole lot of sense. I would assume that Iāve seen that by now, but I donāt know. Iām in the middle of Warbreaker, going to read Rhythm, then Lost Metal, then Sunlit, then I will have finished the Comsere, so if itās in any of those, itās probably the first two. Didnāt Hoid give Kelsier a good beating? Unless that doesnāt count, since Heās a cognitive shadow. That would be ironic if itās the Survive Dawnshard, and he hurt Kelsier of all people.
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Didnāt Hoid give Kelsier a good beating? Unless that doesnāt count, since Heās a cognitive shadow.
Yep, it didnāt count. Hoid said that Kelsierās mind fabricated the pain that he shouldĀ feel, and so he isnāt actually hurting him.
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š Appreciator of BooksOk, that makes sense
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I just finished Elantris. I donāt have much thought on the story at the moment, except that it was relatively mediocre. I feel like a lot of it has been done better in his later books. For instance, Raodenās plot line was very similar to Kaladinās in WoK, but I didnāt find Raoden as interesting of a character.
Iām more interested in the hidden bits of lore that we donāt get to know about. I see what you meant when you said there is a lot left unsaid. I would like to see more of these Skaze for instance. All I know is that they are splinters of Dominion.
Iām also curious about the mention of Vax in the Ars Arcanum. Ati mentioned it in SH as well.
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š Appreciator of BooksYeah, I enjoyed it, but I see what you mean. Thereās so much about the Elantrians I want to know about though, like if there is a locational influence on how much power an Elantrian has, then when did they figure out how to explore the whole Cosmere, still bearing their powers?
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I think Sanderson said you would have to āhackā the magic system to get AonDor to work off world.
Sanderson is well known for his magic systems, but I feel like AonDor and all of the other magic systems that are only hinted at are all fairly boring. AonDor is quite generic for a magic system. It can do basically anything, and it has no special limitations except for location. Granted, this is his first published book, but having already read Mistborn, Stormlight, and Warbreaker, the magic here feels bland in comparison.
What is interesting is how many magic systems Sel has. There are at least three present in Elantris itself, and I believe that there are one or two more in the Emperorās Soul, which I am probably going to read next. It makes me wonder how exactly magic systems are created. Scadrial has two shards, just like Sel, and it has one magic system related to each shard, plus one that is a mix. Even with the Shards combined, it didnāt change anything. Sel has the same amount of Shards and they similarly became combined, but there are many magic systems, and none of them seem explicitly related to either shard, except for Seons and Skazes, which are splinters of Devotion and Dominion, respectively.
Although Elantris is probably my least favorite Cosmere book Iāve read so far, Iām pretty excited for Elantris 2 and 3, because they will probably have a lot of Cosmere information. They will probably be a lot different from Elantris 1, considering how much more Cosmere information tends to be given in more recent books than the early ones.
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š Appreciator of BooksI have now finished the Emperorās Soul. I actually really liked it! Forgery is a pretty cool magic system. The book was very different from what Iām used to from Sanderson.
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