When is dark writing no longer writing for God?

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    whaley
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      @esther-c Yep šŸ˜Š

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      Esther
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        @whalekeeper

        How cute!! ā¤ļø

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        Felicity
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          @mineralizedwritings

          It’s a Christian movie about a football coach (played by one of the Kendrick brothers) and his wife, who have to overcome the obstacles in their lives: the team keeps loosing so he might get fired, they want children but aren’t able to have any, etc. It’s rated PG because of “it’s strong religious themes and because it elevated one religion over another.” My family didn’t have a problem with that. šŸ˜€

          He must increase, but I must decrease.

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          Erica
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            @mineralizedwritings

            Seems like everyone else has already said a lot of what I was going to say lol šŸ˜‚

            I understand being super sensitive to dark things. Though personally I’m not overly sensitive to many things, some of my close family members are and I see that point of view. And everyone is different! That’s how God made us. And I think being “too sensitive” (not saying you are at all!) is much better than being not sensitive enough.

            It’s important to follow your conscience. If your conscience tells you not to do something, then don’t! And don’t feel like you have to do things you don’t want to just to please other people.

            Personally I think that the world needs more uplifting, light-hearted stories–and I love yours by the way! Before I’ve noticed that if you walk down the young adult aisle at the library, almost all of the book covers are black or another very dark color. It makes me sad that dark things are all people want to read these days.

            That being said, I think there is a place for dark elements. Just as long as the Light shines through. “And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness does not overcome it.” (I think that’s in John 1 somewhere . . .) And that’s the whole message of the Bible. If you look at the entire picture (both Old and New Testaments) you see a whole lot of darkness but everywhere a glint of the Light. Like @koshka said, we should go off how the Bible portrays darkness.

            It’s good to think about these things! I’m so glad you created this topic. šŸ˜ŠšŸ’•

            Dark is the Shadow, and yet my heart rejoices.

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            MineralizedWritings
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              @felicity

              Oh, interesting!


              @starofthenorth

              I agree! I like how you said that, and I feel like it’s a pretty good summery of the general consensus here. šŸ˜€ and yeah, dark elements do have there place in literature. I wish we had more better YA fic too! My goal is too hopefully make something that can be available to others one day. We’ll see if I ever get that far šŸ˜‚

              Your welcome, it had been on my mind for awhile, and I figured it was now or never!

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              Felicity
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                @mineralizedwritings

                My goal is too hopefully make something that can be available to others one day. Weā€™ll see if I ever get that far šŸ˜‚

                You will! We’re cheering you on!!!

                He must increase, but I must decrease.

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                MineralizedWritings
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                  @felicity

                  Thanks!

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                  Erica
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                    @mineralizedwritings

                    Ā I wish we had more better YA fic too! My goal is too hopefully make something that can be available to others one day. Weā€™ll see if I ever get that far šŸ˜‚

                    Yes!! I have the same goal. We’ll see . . . I guess I should stop procrastinating and start writing lol šŸ˜‚

                    Dark is the Shadow, and yet my heart rejoices.

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                    Arien
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                      @mineralizedwritings Sorry for the late reply!

                      I guess I never really thought of dark as relating to child abuse, but I know everyone’s different! The first thing I would probably think of would be dark/black/occult magic. Personally I find mind control, mind shattering, and truly broken people as being the most creepy and dark to me. That’s why I stopped reading the Keeper of the Lost Cities series. The way that people can be just completely broken and unable to function in more than an animal-like state is what really disturbs me.

                      And I agree with you and @starofthenorth about writing better YA fiction!!

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                      GodlyFantasy12
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                        @arien @mineralizedwritings thatā€™s why it really depends on the person and their definition too (unless it comes to gross moral sin or what is distinctly labeled as wrong in the Bible. I mean, we know what is wrong and right, and itā€™s okay to write wrong just donā€™t glorify it šŸ˜Š)

                         

                        Like me. Keeper of the lost cities is my FAVORITE series!! And that doesnā€™t bother me AT ALL, but I can totally understand where mineralizedwriting is coming from; and as for the dark occult stuff? Oh definitelyā€¦I view that as more on the darker side and Iā€™m definitely more careful with things labeled ā€œdark magicā€

                         

                        even my own thing I call ā€œshadowā€ā€™powers or ā€œshadow magicā€ or whatever youā€™d call it, im careful with and donā€™t even care for calling it that much.

                         

                        Also I can understand certain types of violence affecting people.

                         

                        And I do agree with Arien on the mind control/shattering when it comes to them being insane, maybe on a scale like the joker or something maniacal like that, but Keeper Of The Lost Cities never reached that point, it was all kosher and fine for me.

                         

                        It really does all depend on what someone is comfortable with, and their own liberties

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                        GodlyFantasy12
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                          @mineralizedwritings alsoā€¦.Iā€™m so sorry if any of my writing or RPs has made u uncomfortable or sadā€¦.while yes IĀ doĀ want people to feel sad for the characters as to what theyā€™ve gone through, I donā€™t want to make them uncomfortable or anything like that!

                           

                          And while Iā€™d love if you could read my writings I completely understand if you cannot.

                           

                          Sometimes things depend on our nature, genre, the age range weā€™re writing too,Ā our ages,Ā and what we all have a capacity for mentally.

                           

                          Honestly, I canā€™t explain it, but since a child Iā€™ve always had a tendency to addā€¦moreā€¦emotional backstories and such to my characters, and while I was a sensitive child i was also the girl who grew up watching the animated series batman, loved the joker, things like that, etc.

                          And for the longest time I thought something was wrong with me.

                           

                          But a few weeks back a message was preached at our church, and the Lord revealed that He made me the way I am, and while I donā€™t understand everythingā€¦the way I think or see things, and all of thatā€¦He let me know that He made me like no one else, flaws and all.

                           

                          In my weaknessĀ HeĀ is strong, and that was one of the points of the message, and He revealed to me that He made me flaws and all to give Him glory, despite it all.

                           

                          While I still struggle, Iā€™m a bit more at peace now with who I am and what I can accept and canā€™t compared to others.

                           

                          That being said, innocence is beautiful! And I hope I can honestly say I still have quite a bit of it lol!! I donā€™t ever want to lose my full innocence, ya know?

                           

                          And we do need innocent writing, thatā€™s where the heart comes from!

                           

                          Donā€™t try to be anything more then who you are! šŸ˜Š

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                          MineralizedWritings
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                            @godlyfantasy12

                            Thanks for your reply! I used to read your writing a bit in the spoiler forum, and I can say it is extremely good! I hope you go places with it, because your writing style is amazing. I wish I could read your writing, frankly I realized at some point I can’t. Probably why I don’t tag you on my own story, I’ve always felt story reading was a mutual thing and felt bad asking for something I know I’m not giving. A bit like when you ask somebody how they are doing, you expect them to ask back, right? It’s polite.

                            I actually love emotional backstories (theirs just a level I can’t handle)! I love reading things that makes me feel something, and writing emotional stuff too!

                            I’m really glad you shared your perspective on this, everyone is different. God made people like you and me for a reason, and we each have different qualities for those reasons. I think it affects how we minister to others around us too. I probably could not listen to somebodies rough background, but they might need to share it with somebody. I’m sure God has people out there who could handle it and give that person a listening ear.

                            I’ve had similar thing in thinking something is off, I think I felt more of mad though. My youth group watched and talked about LOTR as a collective interest, and I couldn’t. I felt like my innocence deprived me of crucial social opportunities. It was like, why? I felt like the quality was a burden to me and made me look weak. I’ve learned otherwise since, but I still think most younger people don’t understand when somebody can’t handle something.

                            I can understand that being scary, not knowing why you can handle more than other people.

                            Everyone’s different, and I really appreciate your reply! I’ve understood where some of you (people who wright rougher topics) are coming from better now!

                            I might not be able to get back too everywhere I’ve been tagged in different forums šŸ˜… I just sped through WFS book 3 and am a bit shaken emotionally šŸ¤£ happens anytime I read something impactful, but especially when I read 2/3 of a book in one sitting…

                             

                             

                            I should really stop doing that lol.

                             

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                            MineralizedWritings
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                              @arien

                              Same actually! When people reach that level of insanity, I becomes too hard for me.

                              "And so I left this world just as I had entered it. Confused."

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                              GodlyFantasy12
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                                @mineralizedwritings šŸ˜Š I love reading your writing actually so please do tag me!!

                                And yes, if one day u ever wish to try my writing once more feel free, but until then, u can always ask about anything u want to know about my stories and I can share without getting into the things you donā€™t like! šŸ˜Š

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                                whaley
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                                  I have two MCs, who are cousins\adopted twins šŸ˜‹ They’re in a quirky, country-pastel-fantasy that I haven’t really shared much here. Anyway, both of them have a messed up way of looking at their world. The first always looks on the bright side, but because of that, always ignores his brother’s anger through bad jokes or laughter. And the second thinks everything is pointless and should leave him alone, but really just needs a big hug. They become best buddies in the end, but until then, they have a lot of work to do. One ignores sadness completely, the other is drowned in it – and it’s important to have a balanced understanding.

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