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    Felicity
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      @otherworldlyhistorian

      Is the name Marcin (which is polish) pronounced kind of like Marsin or is it something else?

      It’s pronounced Mar-cheen. Are you going to use it in your book? It’s a neat name!!

      He must increase, but I must decrease.

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      Felicity
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        Could you elaborate? When you say “searching for the mysteries of God, or to have a relationship with Him”, are you meaning searching for it’s own sake, vs doing it to have a relationship with Him?

        (Yes, that’s what I meant.)

        Can you have a relationship with someone if you don’t know them? (You don’t need to know all of God’s mysteries to have a relationship with Him, but I do think that you must know Him.)

        (Agreed. Any relationship without knowledge is going to be pretty shallow, if not nonexistent.)

        True, but is it not also possible that if we ask Him, and it is according to His will, that God may reveal the truth to us?

        (Indeed this is true.)

        (I’m glad we can have these healthy discussions! I find it sad when contention takes root between different beliefs, because Christ said that we should love our neighbor, as well as our enemies, and we see clearly where it get’s us when we don’t do that. It is only continuous contention, and further polarization to the us them. It brings me so much joy when I can hear the devote testimonies of all those who are actively and honestly seeking out Christ!)

        (Amen!)

        Yes, what is a question? Where does one start with such a question? Should we develop some sort of axioms of inquisition, eliminating all biases from our linguistic minds?

        Is a question simply an interrogative expression used to test someone’s knowledge? Or is it something much deeper? A challenge or defiance of some sort?

        (Weelllllll… kinda. Not exactly, I’ll try to elaborate the best I can. We believe that each of us will have a chance to learn of Him, and then accept Him in this life or the next. If we learn of Him, and reject Him in this life, then that is our choice, but there are many who don’t have those same luxuries, never even hearing the name Jesus Christ, or anything else of Him in this life. This life is still a place for those people to develop and draw closer to truth if they seek it, but they still may never find that in their current state. Thus, after experiencing Earth life, they are then taught the gospel in the next life, and are given the choice to either accept it or reject it. That being said, we still strive to teach the gospel to all corners of the Earth, proclaiming the name of the Savior and what He did for us, so that people can be touched in this life, and they can turn to Him, and their burdens can be eased as they take up His yoke, and they may also proclaim His name. I hope that makes sense.)

        (Fascinating!)

        Who has tasted protons before?

        (I have!) Has not everyone, since they make up all atoms, and atoms make up food?

        What do protons taste like?

        (Ah, the question I’ve been waiting to be asked! Jk. 😁) People say that protons taste sour, but do they really even have a taste? Do they just take on the taste of flavors they are combined with?

        When did you taste said protons?

        (When I ate pickles. 😉 )

        Where did you taste said protons?

        (At my dinning room table.)

        Why did you taste said protons?

        Because pickles are really good, doesn’t everyone agree?

        How did you taste said protons?

        (With the sides of my tongue.)

        What about you? (I have a feeling you’re answers are going to be a lot more “educated” than mine. 😅)

        If the pen is mightier than the sword, why do actions speak louder than words?

        (The pen creates powerful feelings in the reader, who then becomes active. Actions always speak louder than words because it shows that what was said really hit home. And the sword…uh…doesn’t come into play here because it’s a reference to war, which can actually be avoided if words are shared between the warring parties.)

        He must increase, but I must decrease.

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        Otherworldly Historian
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          @felicity

          It’s pronounced Mar-cheen. Are you going to use it in your book? It’s a neat name!!

          (There are multiple Polish game designers with that name. I was just interested in knowing how to pronounce it.) Is it popular? What does it mean? (Also I do like it and may eventually consider working some eastern european language stuff into the cultures but it may cause conflicts since most of my established cultures use language more close to a chinese and latin pronunciation with K)


          @thearcaneaxiom

          If the pen is mightier than the sword, why do actions speak louder than words?

          (It depends what you are communicating.)

          Through darkness,
          light shines brightest

          #138237
          Felicity
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            @otherworldlyhistorian

            (There are multiple Polish game designers with that name. I was just interested in knowing how to pronounce it.) Is it popular? What does it mean?

            (The name means “God of War. It’s decreasing in popularity in Poland.)

            (Also I do like it and may eventually consider working some eastern european language stuff into the cultures but it may cause conflicts since most of my established cultures use language more close to a chinese and latin pronunciation with K)

            (That would be neat, but yeah I can see the difficulty there. You could change the spelling to Marcheen or some other form that would work with the Latin pronunciation but would still sound the same.)

            He must increase, but I must decrease.

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              @felicity

              (The name means “God of War. It’s decreasing in popularity in Poland.)

              (Very interesting)

              (That would be neat, but yeah I can see the difficulty there. You could change the spelling to Marcheen or some other form that would work with the Latin pronunciation but would still sound the same.)

              (That would be possible. I think it is possible that I will make it for the western continent. One really interesting thing is the way Zh is pronounced in eastern european vs asian languages (when using something like pinyin). In chinese pinyin it is more of a j sound. From what you have said it is different in polish.)

              Through darkness,
              light shines brightest

              #138270
              Felicity
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                @otherworldlyhistorian

                (That would be possible. I think it is possible that I will make it for the western continent. One really interesting thing is the way Zh is pronounced in eastern european vs asian languages (when using something like pinyin). In chinese pinyin it is more of a j sound. From what you have said it is different in polish.)

                (Yes that is interesting. There’s a zh (ź) sound and a rzh (ż) sound in Polish which are both different than something like a French j. 😅)

                He must increase, but I must decrease.

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                TheArcaneAxiom
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                  Is a question simply an interrogative expression used to test someone’s knowledge? Or is it something much deeper? A challenge or defiance of some sort?

                  Would a challenge really be the deepest level? Could it simply be an expression of a desire to be given knowledge concerning a particular subject? If that is the heart of a question, then would that not lead to the idea of a challenge, in that you are challenging something taught to you by expressing a desire to understand what you’ve been taught on a deeper level?

                  (I have!) Has not everyone, since they make up all atoms, and atoms make up food?

                  You’ve eaten them, but have you tasted them?

                  (Ah, the question I’ve been waiting to be asked! Jk. 😁) People say that protons taste sour, but do they really even have a taste? Do they just take on the taste of flavors they are combined with?

                  But what do they taste like when fully independent of anything else? What is flavor fundamentally? (There is reasoning that you can make that hydrogen ions is what your receptors within your tongue are taking in, and triggering a sense of “taste” that is sour. Many would point out that this is more nuanced, and that protons are not actually sour, but it’s the acids their in that’s sour, but what triggered the sourness is still the protons. This is why I now ask the question on the nature of a flavor fundamentally.)

                  What about you? (I have a feeling you’re answers are going to be a lot more “educated” than mine. 😅)

                  😅😅😅

                  (The pen creates powerful feelings in the reader, who then becomes active. Actions always speak louder than words because it shows that what was said really hit home. And the sword…uh…doesn’t come into play here because it’s a reference to war, which can actually be avoided if words are shared between the warring parties.)

                  (Makes sense to me!)

                   

                  He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

                  #138333
                  TheArcaneAxiom
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                    @felicity


                    @otherworldlyhistorian

                    (I love this conversation, though I haven’t really studied polish at all, but there was a oddly large amount of specifically polish students when I went to MathCamp, they were great!)

                     


                    @otherworldlyhistorian

                    (It depends what you are communicating.)

                    (This is true) Do you have any thoughts on my food question, or do I still need to elaborate? (It’s more of a topology question I’m asking disguised with food, a joke topologist love.)

                     

                    He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

                    #138342
                    Otherworldly Historian
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                      @thearcaneaxiom

                      (I have no idea)

                      Through darkness,
                      light shines brightest

                      #138345
                      TheArcaneAxiom
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                        @otherworldlyhistorian

                        (I have no idea)

                        *cries*

                        (No worries! What I was asking is to whether or not you think we live in a globally spherical space (potato), Euclidean space (donut), or a hyperbolic space (pringle). The food gives rough intuition of the shape of the surface we would live in, though it’s in reference to higher dimensional manifolds. We like to think of things being euclidean, and that may be true on a local scale, but with general relativity, it is locally spherical relative to the earth.) What we want to know though is what this is on a non local scale, what surface is the whole universe imbedded in, and is that even meaningful to ask?

                        He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

                        #138346
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                          @thearcaneaxiom

                          (My comprehension of this topic is tiny so I don’t really understand what you are asking. Dimensionality is not really something I have studied. The food is clever though)

                          Through darkness,
                          light shines brightest

                          #138389
                          Felicity
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                            @thearcaneaxiom

                            Would a challenge really be the deepest level? Could it simply be an expression of a desire to be given knowledge concerning a particular subject? If that is the heart of a question, then would that not lead to the idea of a challenge, in that you are challenging something taught to you by expressing a desire to understand what you’ve been taught on a deeper level?

                            What about curiosity? Does that tie in with the desire for a deeper understanding?

                            You’ve eaten them, but have you tasted them?

                            Well ok, not by themselves, but since I’ve eaten them, haven’t I inherently tasted them, even if I didn’t consciously sort out which flavor they were?

                            But what do they taste like when fully independent of anything else? What is flavor fundamentally? (There is reasoning that you can make that hydrogen ions is what your receptors within your tongue are taking in, and triggering a sense of “taste” that is sour. Many would point out that this is more nuanced, and that protons are not actually sour, but it’s the acids their in that’s sour, but what triggered the sourness is still the protons. This is why I now ask the question on the nature of a flavor fundamentally.)

                            (I cheated, these are not my words. “Taste refers to the perception of the sensory cells in your taste buds. When food compounds activate these sensory cells, your brain detects a taste, like sweetness.
                            Flavor includes taste and odor. Odor comes from your sense of smell. Sensory cells in your nose interact with odor particles, then send messages to your brain.”) Maybe protons are tasteless, but when they react with the acids they make up it creates the sourness?

                            (I love this conversation, though I haven’t really studied polish at all, but there was a oddly large amount of specifically polish students when I went to MathCamp, they were great!)

                            (Yussss. Poles are awesome. Totally not bias. Just curious, what state was the camp in? There are large populations of Polish immigrants in certain places like Chicago, Port Colden, Pittsburgh, etc.)

                            He must increase, but I must decrease.

                            #138395
                            TheArcaneAxiom
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                              @felicity

                              What about curiosity? Does that tie in with the desire for a deeper understanding?

                              Is that not perhaps the definition of a desire for a deeper understanding? Does there still feel like there’s something missing though?

                              Well ok, not by themselves, but since I’ve eaten them, haven’t I inherently tasted them, even if I didn’t consciously sort out which flavor they were?

                              (Hmm, I still think that would depend on how you define taste.)

                              (I cheated, these are not my words. “Taste refers to the perception of the sensory cells in your taste buds. When food compounds activate these sensory cells, your brain detects a taste, like sweetness.
                              Flavor includes taste and odor. Odor comes from your sense of smell. Sensory cells in your nose interact with odor particles, then send messages to your brain.”) Maybe protons are tasteless, but when they react with the acids they make up it creates the sourness?

                              But doesn’t smell govern the complexity of the taste, whereas the tongue is responsible for the 5 different main tastes, which includes sour?

                              (Yussss. Poles are awesome. Totally not bias. Just curious, what state was the camp in? There are large populations of Polish immigrants in certain places like Chicago, Port Colden, Pittsburgh, etc.)

                              (It was in Maine, most of them weren’t immigrants, they were Polish citizens still. MathCamp, while being focused on the US and Canada, is still an international program, so I got to meet people from all over the world. It actually became an inside joke how there were specifically so many Poles, but there were some students who where citizens of Hungary, Vietnam, Russia, and countless other countries.)

                               

                              He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

                              #138679
                              Felicity
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                                Is that not perhaps the definition of a desire for a deeper understanding? Does there still feel like there’s something missing though?

                                (Curiosity sums it up pretty well, in my opinion.) Do you think there’s something missing?

                                (It was in Maine, most of them weren’t immigrants, they were Polish citizens still. MathCamp, while being focused on the US and Canada, is still an international program, so I got to meet people from all over the world. It actually became an inside joke how there were specifically so many Poles, but there were some students who where citizens of Hungary, Vietnam, Russia, and countless other countries.)

                                (That’s neat!)

                                 

                                If a tree falls in the forest and no body hears it, does it still make a sound?

                                He must increase, but I must decrease.

                                #138699
                                TheArcaneAxiom
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                                  @felicity

                                  (Curiosity sums it up pretty well, in my opinion.) Do you think there’s something missing?

                                  (Yeah, I think it’s a good summery. It feels like the word curiosity doesn’t give a complete connotation though.) I’m not sure, perhaps there are different degrees of what curiosity is? Does that stray from the heart of a question? (I would say that curiosity is the right word, but it just feels less driven to me for some reason, even though that’s what curiosity is, so…. maybe I’m just going in circles here.)

                                  If a tree falls in the forest and no body hears it, does it still make a sound?

                                  *Gives a long pained sigh…

                                  (Ok, so there are a few interesting things going on with this question. This points to many different ideas within fields like physics and neuroscience. Many may ask a similar question about if merely being able to observe something effects its overall reality. This is a very real thing within quantum mechanics as well as general relativity, but we don’t really need to go that far for this. What this question is really asking is what sound even is. We know how we detect sound, particles hitting each other over and over with a frequency that is then bounced off of our eardrums and registered in our brains. You can say the sound is the particles hitting each other, or you could say it’s the interpretation of particles hitting each other. One answer in independent of the observer, while the other is dependent. This can lead to deeper questions about how much of our reality is really simply our minds interpretations of a truer reality. Time and space for example feel like concrete concepts that exist in their own right independent from us, but many suggest that these are really just our interpretations of what’s really going on.)

                                  If reality is only our interpretation of it, than what is it when uninterpreted?

                                   

                                  He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

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