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I read the beginning of your story (sorry it took me a while to get to it) and I think it’s interesting. If you post the rest when you’re finished, please tag me!
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What are your romance pet peeves?
Yep, it’s just that question. (not irl, of course, but in fiction, lol)
Write what should not be forgotten. — Isabel Allende
1: love triangles. I find them incredibly unrealistic and often ridiculous.
2: no communication. The entire plot should not be able to be resolved with a 5 minute conversation. Like seriously. This may be a problem in real life, but do I want to real a full 300+ pages about a couple misunderstanding each other because they aren’t mature enough to actually. use. words. ever? No, I don’t.
3: *”amazing”* first kisses. Now, I know I’m not speaking through personal, first hand experience (having not been kissed before), but my mother has made a few comments on these literary moments. It may be fun, and perhaps a little sparkingly something or other, but it should also be kinda awkwardly accomplished. If not, one or the other has had practice.
First Grand Historian of Arreth and the Lesser Realms (aka Kitty)
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- Senseless miscommunication. (Need clarification?)
- Senseless offences (how dare she buy her favorite ice cream with her birthday money? Or how dare he not tell me he was a secret agent! Like what did you expect him to do? I get it if this isn’t cleared up until late in an engagement,(although it’s kinda realistic to do that, honestly) but hopefully a secret agent’s love interest is someone who can handle surprises and the truth.)
- A focus on physical beauty over spiritual beauty. This is a worldly obsession that is not healthy. Yes, each should like how the other looks, but the relationship will implode if that’s the basis.
- Kissing before any commit is made. Seriously.
- Any romantic relationship with someone who is spiritually bankrupt. Ok, I loved The Guardian by Dee Henderson, but it was not typical. XD Just… Priorities, people. Priorities.
- The idea that she has tO Be tHeRe Or He MiGht gEt HuRt No MatTeR tHaT sHe Is LiTeRalLy JuSt a LiAbILitY. I get it if she has a reason to be there – that’s great – but don’t throw the less qualified (usually the girl) into a life or death situation just be because “she must help somehow.” Be creative, please. It’s not that she can’t be a valuable part of the team, just that I would rather see her helping from affar than disrupting the plan to suit some whim.
Anyway, I have more, but this will certainly do. Also take in mind that some of these pet peeves could become great plot points if handled very differently.
You have listened to fears, child. Come, let me breathe on you... Are you brave again? -Aslan
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1. Guys who are too possessive. I dislike this because there’s a fine line between protectiveness and… almost this sense of greed? The guy will only want the girl for himself and hates on anything that takes up some of her attention.
2. The ideally sweet, quiet, kind girl. Especially if they are the character without a point of view. It feels a little cheap, because it’s as if they were created specifically for the role of love interest instead of being their own character. In fact –
3. Any female partner who was made to just be a love interest. This can be good, but it’s very easy to botch. They tend to be very generic.
4. Characters who are described as too quirky or normal, but end up being the most attractive character when you read their description. I mention this because it seems to happen a lot in the few romances I’ve read… maybe it’s just me?
5. Obliviousness. This is perfectly fine with me in the earlier parts of a story, but sometimes it drags on for too long. For example, in the series I’m reading, seven books have passed and the heroine has finally realized her crush likes her back. The hints were agonizingly obvious. He was giving you gifts, girl. He initiated a unique telepathic connection with you. His friends have openly joked about your feelings for each other.
6. I second the communication issue.
7. I don’t mind kissing too much, but it always strikes a weird cord in me when the two characters are meeting each other without their friends or families’ knowledge, and in potentially questionable corners of the setting.
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Have any of you seen The Man Who Invented Christmas? It’s the story of how Charles Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol. It’s funny, it’s well done, and…. it also gets inside an authors head in an ACCURATE WAY! I’m on the sofa bouncing with excitement, nodding, saying “oh yes, totally get that” and my brothers are looking at each other like, “who is this nut? Is he our sisters evil twin?” lololol. Seriously though, it was really good! I was over the moon when I saw Charles getting inspiration from odd places and collecting names and quotes people said in a notebook!!!! Honestly, if you wants some fun and want to watch someone like us in a movie, I highly recommend. (No questionable or skip scenes, language, or extreme violence.) You can watch it free on YouTube and I’m sure a few other places stream it. Here’s the trailer.
Btw, anyone who hasn’t seen it and watches the trailer….. anything seem familiar with your own writing life??! XD
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I agree with @koshka and @elishavet-pidyon
I would also add,
1. A lot of physical contact before marriage
2. Only being able to have a relationship when alone. I prefer that one of the first times this couple is alone is when he asks her to marry him. Show them getting to know each others families, hanging out at church, spending time with friends, etc. Don’t isolate them. Have them notice things about one another in those group settings.
Examples:
he was surprised that she took the time to notice the fact that Jane’s grandmother needed someone to help her get a glass of water.
She smiled as she watched him playing with the children
He was liked the fact that the first thing she did upon entering was ask how she could help
She was pleasantly surprised that he noticed there weren’t enough seats and quickly gave up his own before the situation could become awkward.
Etc. Etc.
(Side note: do stuff like this and you’ll have a unique romance! 😉 )
Man is born for the fight, to be forged and molded into a sharper, finer, stronger image of God
Thanks for letting me know! It looks like an amazing writer’s film!
"He who never quotes will never be quoted." ~Charles Spurgeon
1: love triangles. I find them incredibly unrealistic and often ridiculous.
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jk jk. XD I personally don’t mind them if they’re done right. 😉
2: no communication. The entire plot should not be able to be resolved with a 5 minute conversation. Like seriously. This may be a problem in real life, but do I want to real a full 300+ pages about a couple misunderstanding each other because they aren’t mature enough to actually. use. words. ever? No, I don’t.
Ok so a question about this one…I sort of agree, but what if it’s miscommunication? Like they talk it through but misunderstand each other and that’s where some of the conflict stems from. Does that bother you as much or would that make more sense?
Thank you so much for your input though!!
Senseless offences
The idea that she has tO Be tHeRe Or He MiGht gEt HuRt No MatTeR tHaT sHe Is LiTeRalLy JuSt a LiAbILitY. I get it if she has a reason to be there – that’s great – but don’t throw the less qualified (usually the girl) into a life or death situation just be because “she must help somehow.”
Yessss, these bother me toooo. 😩
A focus on physical beauty over spiritual beauty. This is a worldly obsession that is not healthy. Yes, each should like how the other looks, but the relationship will implode if that’s the basis.
So where do you think the line should be drawn on this. Because I like to describe certain characters from other characters POVs, and sometimes they do linger a little bit on why they find them attractive (not like a monologue or anything, just some of their initial thoughts XD). I understand it should never be the basis for a relationship, but I don’t want it coming across that I think the opposite.
I really appreciate your feedback!!
1. Guys who are too possessive. I dislike this because there’s a fine line between protectiveness and… almost this sense of greed? The guy will only want the girl for himself and hates on anything that takes up some of her attention.
Oh I agree 100%. THAT’S NOT WHAT TRUE LOVE LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE!!!
Obliviousness. This is perfectly fine with me in the earlier parts of a story, but sometimes it drags on for too long. For example, in the series I’m reading, seven books have passed and the heroine has finally realized her crush likes her back. The hints were agonizingly obvious. He was giving you gifts, girl. He initiated a unique telepathic connection with you. His friends have openly joked about your feelings for each other.
Let me guess…KotLC? 👀
Thanks for taking the time to let me know your thoughts!!
1. A lot of physical contact before marriage
So where do you draw the line on this one? Obviously there are some lines that should not be crossed before marriage, but could you possibly elaborate on this more? The reason I ask is because in one my books, I have a couple who are really close to getting engaged—they’ve known each other for years and dated for a while, they’re at the point where they’re talking to the other before making big life decisions—and I have them casually hold hands or occasionally give each other a hug. Which I personally think is normal and not inappropriate for a couple who are at that point. I’m just wondering what your opinion on that is.
2. Only being able to have a relationship when alone. I prefer that one of the first times this couple is alone is when he asks her to marry him. Show them getting to know each others families, hanging out at church, spending time with friends, etc. Don’t isolate them. Have them notice things about one another in those group settings.
Oh yes totally! I think it’s unrealistic and (if it did happen irl) unhealthy for two people to only get to know each other alone. Like, sure, you’re dating, but YoU cAn HaNG oUt In GrOuPs It’S OkAYyyyy. 😑
Thank you so much for your input!
And YES! I have watched that movie!! I watched it for the first time last year and watched it again this year around Christmas. I absolutely love it!!! My family found it extra funny because they knew I was a little bit crazy just like they accurately portrayed Charles. 🤣
Write what should not be forgotten. — Isabel Allende
I’m pretty sure I have more, but here’s nine.
- NO. MATURE. RELATIONSHIPS. BETWEEN. CHILDREN. I have read about 2 books ever that had elementry/middle school relationships well written. I don’t care if in real life 12 year olds date. I don’t want to read about it.
- Love at first sight. It’s not love, it’s just attraction.
- Why are the characters so hot? What’s wrong with “kind of cute”? This one doesn’t actually bother me much, but it is rather unrealistic.
- Fried chicken love. Or in other words, loving the other person because they make you feel good. I love pancakes because they make me feel good! That’s not how God loves people; that is how Satan loves people. My dad preached a whole sermon on that once.
- I’m not against love triangles, but they had better be done well. Rhett, Scarlett, and Ashley in Gone With the Wind, and Gilbert, Anne, and Roy in Anne of the Island are the two good ones I could think of off the top of my head.
- Bearded men are hot. Why don’t heroes ever have beards?
- The woman doesn’t want to get married and settle down because of her career. What’s wrong with being a stay at home mom? We need more heroines who want to stay at home and have a dozen or so children!
- Getting engaged after only a week or two.
- The girl is a dork with a dysfunctional family life who desperately wants to fit in at school, and then she meets the cool boy who is actually faking it and is secretly a dork with a dysfunctional family life, and then they bond over secret dorky hobbies, and also the girl is supposed to be plain, but every time she’s described she is actually gorgeous. WHY.
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