- This topic has 113 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 11 months, 1 week ago by
.
-
Posts
-
I’m doing what you suggested with finding consonant and vowel sounds. Do you happen to know how to write the sound that the ‘j’ in Eojold makes, phonetically? (It’s pronounced like the ‘g’ at the end of ‘garage’ or ‘sabotage.’) I can’t find any info online.
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of BooksI have another question. So I noticed that in this language, the letter ‘C’ never makes an ‘s’ sound, but always a ‘K’ sound. Logically, that would mean that between C and K, only one is necessary. But I don’t like the looks of a lot of the words if I change them to the other, and some of them are real names, like Cadmus, which I would rather not change to ‘Kadmus.’ So is it okay to have to letters that always sound the same? English doesn’t have any letters that always sound the same, but it does have some that could easily be replaced by two letters in combination. (I’m looking at you Q and X.)
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of BooksI’m doing what you suggested with finding consonant and vowel sounds. Do you happen to know how to write the sound that the ‘j’ in Eojold makes, phonetically? (It’s pronounced like the ‘g’ at the end of ‘garage’ or ‘sabotage.’) I can’t find any info online.
So I simply call this a French j. It’s usually notated with a j in French, or ge in English. I use the first when conlanging, but when I want to just have an English j as well, I usually just find some arbitrary way of differentiating them. There’s some more formalized ways of doing it, but when your Romanizing your conlang, it’s up to you for how you do it.
I have another question. So I noticed that in this language, the letter ‘C’ never makes an ‘s’ sound, but always a ‘K’ sound. Logically, that would mean that between C and K, only one is necessary. But I don’t like the looks of a lot of the words if I change them to the other, and some of them are real names, like Cadmus, which I would rather not change to ‘Kadmus.’ So is it okay to have to letters that always sound the same? English doesn’t have any letters that always sound the same, but it does have some that could easily be replaced by two letters in combination. (I’m looking at you Q and X.)
Once again, this is up to you. Your making an aesthetic choice based off of how the Romanized words look, which is different from what the letters/characters/glyphs if any would look like. So as long as you have the sounds themselves standardized well, it’s really up to you how you Romanize it. I like to keep my romanizations organized, removing unnecessary characters for the sake of simplicity, but I sometimes bend the rules for the writing itself, for the sake of English readers.
He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.
Okay, thanks! Would it work to find a ‘j’ with an accent of some sort above it to represent the French J?
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of BooksSure, that works great, as long as you can type that easily.
He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.
It won’t be easy XD, but it isn’t going to be a super common sound, so it shouldn’t be too much of a hassle. In Word, you can set up autocorrect options, so I can just have it autocorrect those words.
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of BooksWait, you can!? You can do that!?
A disturbingly short time ago, in a land uncomfortably close by...
Go to options, go to proofing. There should be a button that says autocorrect options, which will take you into a place where you can do that.
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of Books@everyone
I wasn’t originally planning to make a conlang, but I am now off to a good start. Here are all the words I created as well as phonetic rules and such. Not very organize.
Phonetics
Consonant sounds: ‘D’, ‘M’, ‘N’, ‘T’, ‘L’, ‘R’, ‘P’, ‘V’, ‘G’, ‘Th’, ‘B’, ‘S’, ‘H’, ‘K’, ‘J’, ‘Sh’Vowel sounds: ‘O’, ‘EE’, ‘Uh’, ‘A’, ‘Ay’, ‘Ah’, ‘I’, ‘Eh’, ‘Eu’
Consonants: B, C, D, G, H, J, K, L, M, N, P, R, S, T, V
Vowels: A, E, I, O, U, Y
Consonants lacked: F, Q, Z.
Consonants rarity: R is the most common consonant, followed by D, L, and N. J and W are the rarest, followed by P. B, C, G, H, K, and V are a bit more common. M, S, and T are of average frequency. F, Q, and Z do not exist in the Arvendin alphabet.
Vowels rarity: A is by far the most common vowel, followed by E and I. O is a bit less common. U is rarer. Y is the rarest of all and is highly unusual.
Notes on sounds: ‘I’ always makes a soft ‘I’ sound, as in “tin” and never a hard one as in ‘fire.’ ‘J’ or ‘j’ makes in English J sound, as in ‘joy’; ‘Ĵ’ or ‘ĵ’ makes a French J sound similar to the ‘g’ at the end of ‘sabotage.’ ‘E’s at the end of sentences make an “ay” sound.
Sentence Construction
Arvendin uses the same sentence structure as English.Words
Articles
En – “The”Re – “A”
Er – “An”
Conjunctions
Id – “And”Od – “Or
Es – “If”
Vegen – “When”
Verendel – “Where”
Prepositions
El – “Of”An – “In”
Ar – “On”
Misir – “Under”
Eld – “From”
Ader – “Above”
Lonol – “Between”
Ag – “For”
Verag – “Before”
Pronouns
Rir – “This”Ramol – “That”
Mith – “I”
Min – “Me”
Dith – “He” (or “He/she”)
Din – “Him” (or “Him/her”)
Ith – “She”
In – “Her”
Dinin – “They”
Tith – “You”
Torar – “Other”
Ol – “Who”
Nol – “What”
Determiners
Mel – “My”Del – “His” (or “His/hers”)
Il – “Her” or “Hers”
Dil – “Their” or “Theirs”
Til – “Your” or “Yours”
Ramol – “That”
Nol – “What”
Nouns
(Note: for plural nouns, add an ‘e’ to the end of the word, unless it ends in a vowel, in which case an ‘ne’ is added instead. Any violations of this rule are noted otherwise.)(Another Note: for possessives, add an ‘’s’ to the end, unless noted otherwise.)
Entities
Pandiol – “Person”Asepion – “Animal”
Dragon – “Dragon”
Body Parts
Dedir – “Head”
Raron – “Torso” or “Chest”
Iel – “Abdomen” (Refers to the entire lower body from below the chest to where the legs attach.)
Argin – “Arm”
Irgin – “Leg”
Anon – “Hand”
Anonir – “Fist”
Linir – “Finger”
Inon – “Foot”
Abanir – “Blood”
Locations
Sependel – “Place”Generic Objects
Rendir – “Thing”Nature
Apelion – “Plant”Figar – “Fire”
Esar – “Light”
Desar – “Darkness”
Anta – “Brink”
Weapons
Evarion – “Sword”Minerals
Gantir – “Crystal” or “Gemstone”
Rertir – “Ruby” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with red coloration.)
Aventir – “Sapphire” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with blue coloration.)
Vertir – “Emerald” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with green coloration.)
Detir – “Amethyst” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with purple coloration.)
Ragitir – “Amber” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with orange coloration.)
Tepir – “Turquoise” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with turquoise or light blue coloration.)
Voirir – “Onyx” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with black coloration.)
Estir – “Diamond” (Can be used to refer to any gemstone with white or clear coloration.)
Colors
Reriar – “Red”Avendel – “Blue”
Verar – “Green”
Elestir – “Yellow”
Devir – “Purple”
Ragien – “Orange”
Tependar – “Turquoise” (refers specifically to the shade of light blue associated with the Eìvir line of Paligen.)
Voinen – “Black”
Esia – “White”
Abstract Concepts
Vesir – “Life”Nidir – “Death”
Lis – “Trial”
Numbers
Di – “One”
Li – “Two”
Ri – “Three”
Si – “Four”
Mi – “Five”
Ti – “Six”
Ĵi – “Seven”
Vi – “Eight”
Ni – “Nine”
Non – “Ten”
Nonon – “Hundred”
Mon – “Thousand”
Verbs
Ve – “Be”Ĵe – “Have”
Von – “Do”
Tov – “Go”
Cem – “Eat”
Ses – “Sleep”
Ir – “Is” or “Are”
Vesin – “Live”
Nidin – “Die”
Var – “Fight”
Ono – “Believe”
Adjectives
Gaĵ – “Big”Epe – “Small”
Ave – “Fast”
Ente – “Slow”
Es – “Bright”
Des – “Dark”
Torar – “Other”
Vese – “Alive”
Nide – “Dead”
Adverbs
Vegen – “When”Verendel – “Where”
Vol – “Why”
Vwel – “How”
Odon – “Back”
Greetings
Endeson – Typical greeting; “Hello” or “Welcome”
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of BooksOops, ‘X’ should also be in ‘Consonants lacked’
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of BooksDo verbs change depending on the pronoun? Like in Spanish? Yo vivo, tu vives, el vive, ella vive, etc?
A disturbingly short time ago, in a land uncomfortably close by...
(English does that too…)
No, I don’t think I will have that. I do have to figure out tense changes though.
🏰 Fantasy Writer
✨ Magic System Creator
🎭 Character RPer
📚 Appreciator of BooksOh yeah, I guess… I feel like the difference is more pronounced in Spanish. Or maybe it’s because I’m just used to English. Idk.
A disturbingly short time ago, in a land uncomfortably close by...
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.