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My two of my mom’s guy friends were killed through that game when she was a teenager.
Yikes! That’s scary
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
Understandable.
I have also considered making up a world with my friends and doing our own fantasy RPG in it.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
btw, do you like RP type games?
I’ve kind of wanted to get into D&D, but with a group of Christians so that we can do a campaign without anything the anyone feels uncomfortable with. My friends has tried to start a Star Wars one a fet times, but that had never worked out.
That War Story: Occupied France sounds kind of neat, but I tend to be drawn more to fantasy than World War stuff.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
@theducktator @ellette-giselle
Okay. Thank you both. I might wait to see what @whalekeeper thinks, but your responses are helpful. I could add a moment of clarity where he realizes what he is doing when he is too close to the village and gets caught up in the fight, even if he plans to escape.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
That makes sense. However again, different people would react differently.
But what about when he wakes up?
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
This could be interesting to try…. but I’m not sure Julian and Leon feel like that sort of person…….. do either of them feel that way to you?
I guess both of them do seem to be confident individuals. Julian is certainly a blame others type, considering his reaction to Adrian’s death. Leon, I’m not so sure about it.
I’m just realizing several of my characters tend to blame themselves like I do. Alan, Martha, and Oliver all would. Eric’s somewhere in the middle.
Haha. That’s funny. we’re complete opposite!
Well that just means we can advise each other on writing characters who are different from ourselves 🙂
Oh gross. Did you chuck the game after that?
No. We still have it, though we haven’t played it for a while. We just ignore the story when we do play it.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
Is it bad that it was reversed?
I wounldn’t say so. It just makes this scene feel more like a moment where Joseph/Arron is struggling then Noah/David encourages or seems stronger.
Hmm…. I might possibly chuck that section altogether………..
Up to you.
Well….. I think that might be because that tends to be what happens to me when I’m handling grief/anger. I haven’t personally experienced a lot of other methods, so it’s kind of what I know.
Ah. When I’m upset, I tend to blame myself over God. My reaction is more of ‘Look. God’s going to use this for good. So don’t worry.’ *worries* ‘Cut that out!’ *complains* ‘No, I can’t complain, this will be used for good’ *worries more and complains more* ‘Ugh, God I can’t stop worrying and complaining, help me to trust you’ *worries more and complains even more* ‘Argh!’. Also, this is all internal. I haven’t experienced anything really traumatic, so I don’t know how I would react in a more desperate circumstance. But my guess, based off of my self-blaming personality, is that I would tend to do something like that. You could try asking other people how they have responded to circumstances for more ideas.
Is that bad?
It just makes the characters feel more samey than unique from each other. We’ve seen the ‘Why God?’ reaction, so it might be nice to see some different ones from different characters to make it more refreshing. Julian is often logical. How might that impact his emotional reactions? Or does he just forget logic altogether and start being completely unreasonable? He kind of was when he refused to listen to that last verse. (This does work as well. My character Cyrus is kind of like this)
Yeah……. well I just named a villain after a really good friend’s dad….. (I didn’t know his name! I PROMISE!) so I won’t be too surprised if that winds up happening.
If it makes you feel better, I was playing a board game with my dad and sister, and the villain was introduced as Roland, which we all had a laugh at. But as the game continued, we found out this Roland was the leader of a blood cult. Ewww.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
What if he stops for the night? (Which he will need to do. Nearland can be reached in a day on horseback from Dehn Prisson, but someone walking would have to take a break.) Do you think it would cross his mind then?
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
And there may be other ways to get Alan with his friends that would work better.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
I should mention that Alan acctually doesn’t even know if his friends are still there, thinking Stripe might have gotten them to move on.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
@ellette-giselle @theducktator @whalekeeper
Okay, another question for all of you. I’m wondering if Alan would even return to the abandoned village. After he escapes the prison, he starts heading there since he has nowhere else to go in the moment, but then it occurs to him that the Wizards will probably look for him there. His friends are in danger. But the last time he tried to save someone, which was his father, the plan backfired, and Charles was used against him. I would like him to get back to the village, but I realize he may try to avoid it for everyone’s saftey. (This would also fit with his arc, where he comes to believe he has to do things on his own.)
It may occur to him that his friends could still be used against him, but if he runs away, he can maybe find some better way to help them. And the difference is this time, he is not going to depend on dark powers. He also has some hope that if things go wrong, the Saviour will use it for good (which is still shaky at this point, but it is there).
So, do you think it goes against Alan’s character and arc for him to return?
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
Well that is exactly how you should picture him! Bravo! 👏🏻
Wow. That’s like… a first for me.
I thought about having a POV for him….. but that will start fracturing into lots of POVs and the question will be, “Why Rolf over Aelic and Roland?” and then I’ll have five POVs going.
Yup. Well, no need to go into Rolf’s head.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
@ellette-giselle @theducktator @whalekeeper
All right. Thank you for your thoughts. I might try the first draft with the henchmen, and if I don’t like them, I can pull them out later.
Acctually, the sarcastic henchmen who always wonder how they ended up with their job are some of the henchmen I like, but I don’t think that fits TNPT, so I’ll see what I can come up with.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
Leon’s prayer at the beginning was what I was expecting to be going through Rolf’s head instead, then Leon being the one who encourages as he has gone through so much more. I was supprised when it was reversed!
I’m not convinced by Julian telling Dian the gospel in that moment. Both before and after, he is caught in grief over Leon’s capture. And it is still very fresh in his mind. It seems like he switches it off as if it never happened when talking to Dian, talking quite strongly for someone in a big moment of doubt, even if he does want to be alone. Then, when Dian leaves, in a flash, he is unable to bear it anymore and is filled with doubt.
I think what’s bothering me was Julian’s interest in what Dian had to say. This doesn’t fit with his desire to be alone. If he wants to be alone, he’s going to want to be out of there as quickly as possible. Even if he does feel obligated to stay, he’s not going to start questioning Dian any more than he has to. And if he does show intreast, he is going to have to force himself to do so. He may even decide not to go into the gospel right then and there, with the bit about Adar going right over his head. And since they are staying on the ship, he knows there will likely be time later. Or it could be Rolf or Aelic who shares the gospel as well.
As a side note, I’ve noticed your protagonists seem to all handle grief the same way. When something goes wrong, they all cry aloud, ‘Why God? Why! Why did You let this happen?’ and then they somehow come across a Bible verse, and temporarily take courage in that. Julian was a little more different in the way that the verse he remembered he still fought against. What might make each of their responses more unique?
Otherwise, it’s a good section. Still waiting for you to use more names of my Dad’s brothers.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
I feel like I’ve heard that song before, but I can’t tell if I actually have or if it is just similar to another song I’ve heard before. I can see why you waited to post this until after Rolf and Leon were captured. It fits much more now that that happened.
I remember reading the book in the first meme you posted. It’s called All My Friends Are Dead. I thought it was the funniest thing ever when I was 12.
Next section! I will get to reading it soon.
Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.
