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@valtmy

Fine, three. 😛

And yeah, Carlotta usually has a much more operatic voice, though I don’t whether she’s usually played by women with operatic training.

@rochellaine

Whoops! I literally write your name on autopilot now 😀

@valtmy sorry! See above 😀 (I accidentally tagged Rochellaine instead of you!)

@seekjustice You replied to @valtmy‘s post, but tagged me. 😛

@rochellaine

But Christine actually only sings in an opera in one scene (The Point of No Return), the other opera scene her part is silent. And people get killed over the fact that her part is silent too.

Just out of curiosity, how many musicals are there about opera?

@rochellaine

Yep 😀 I don’t know, he’s definitely horrible, but he’s still a father. Oh, and technically, Zac’s father is dead too, but…that’s minor and I didn’t kill him. He was just dead already.

I don’t know, I hope so. Though I’m not sure that Justice’s mother, or Sapphire’s mother, really count as useful.

@seekjustice I prefer musical theater to opera (usually) as well, but I also am a stickler for accuracy.  The entire story revolves around the fact that Christine has a beautiful, classically trained operatic voice, and that she sings in the opera.  Therefore the fact that they cast women with obviously Broadway style voices to sing songs that b…[Read more]

@valtmy Yep, they are! That’s why I was proud of myself for only killing two 😛

@rochellaine

They do, for about a total of ten minutes 😛 And that’s heaps enough opera for me!

That’s true, but at least I’m not being so cliché. isn’t Young adult fiction notorious for killing off all the parents? All my characters have at least one live parent (but not all the parents have live children…)

@catwing Haha.  As someone who allows mainly the parents to die, but saves the children alive, wouldn’t that make you similar to Disney? 😛

@seekjustice Don’t they put on what’s supposed to be an operatic production? The costumes certainly nod to opera costumery.

Not killing parents does not make the deaths less, it only makes them different. 😉

@catwing Goodnight!

@rochellaine I’m very proud of myself, I’ve only ever killed two parent characters!

@rochellaine

Maybe I would, I don’t know 😀

I’m listening to the Phantom of the Opera currently. 😛 But I do have to point out that he’s the phantom of the opera house, which doesn’t necessarily mean that it has to be an opera, just that its set in an opera house.

@catwing Concealed Carry.  😉

@seekjustice No, I definitely wouldn’t want to read it.  I have no idea what the original characters were like.  I just know Phoebus was really nice in the ’23 version, and that in both versions Esmerelda was an adult.

Maybe you would enjoy the “cleaned up and adjusted” versions better. 😛

Well, I don’t like the Phantom anyway, so no argument t…[Read more]

@catwing Poor Gary!

@rochellaine Phoebus is also the epitome of abusive man 🙁 Victor Hugo was just really into murder (he’d be even more frightening to meet than me!) Anyway, that’s my rant for the day on why I didn’t like the book. I also just don’t really like the gothic horror genre. I didn’t like The Phantom of the Opera much either when I read that.

@catwing Poor Gary! 🙁

Lesson to all book characters: Never try to learn more than is good for you, and if you do, and someone threatens to eliminate you, go to the police, then get your CC permit. 😛

@seekjustice I can’t write a long discussion post right now, but I just went back and read the synopses of the two versions I saw and apparently they were modified a bit so not everyone dies, 😛

The 1923 version, (a really big film in it’s time) changed the story drastically, allowing Phoebus to survive with Esmerelda. 😀

The classic Charles…[Read more]

@catwing Redeeming characters is the best, isn’t it? I love doing it! (What happened to Gary!!!???)

@valtmy

See above answer to @Rochellaine 😀 Part of the other reason that I found it really difficult was that Claude Frollo, who is the archdeacon of Notre Dame and the main character of the book, lusts after Esemerelda, who is only fifteen/sixteen years old. He even comes extremely close to raping her. When she consistently refuses his…[Read more]

@rochellaine

Well, in the book, everyone, everyone dies, with the exception of the small goat and the useless poet. Quasimodo drops a beam on Jehan Frollo’s head, pushes Claude Frollo off the roof, pours molten lead on everyone else. Esmerelda gets hanged and finally Quasimodo starves himself to death. That’s only the ending, the rest of it is w…[Read more]

@catwing It great 😀