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    Linus Smallprint
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      @ellette-giselle @whalekeeper @theducktator (your late, but fine, I will let you join. Last one.)

       Here is the link to what I have done on my outline so far. I’ve just written down everything I am confident with at the beginning. I will add my ideas for the middle part and what I know of the ending later (Maybe tomorrow. I should have time then.) The middle is the part I have the least clues about. Any thoughts?

      Just for fun, any predictions?

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      #197196
      Linus Smallprint
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        I will have to give you access for the link. I’m being secretive with this right now.

        Sometimes it is necessary to paint the sky black in order to see the stars.

        #197197
        Ellette Giselle
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          @linus-smallprint

          I just requested access. I’m using an alias but it’s me.

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          Linus Smallprint
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            @ellette-giselle

            Access granted to Elethwyn R. (That is you, right?)

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            #197200
            Ellette Giselle
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              @linus-smallprint

              No!

              I have no idea who that is!

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              #197203
              Ellette Giselle
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                @linus-smallprint

                just joking. I just couldn’t resist.

                It’s me. It’s the Elvish translation of my name.

                 

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                #197206
                Linus Smallprint
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                  @ellette-giselle

                  Don’t scare me like that!

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                    @linus-smallprint

                    I just got way too much satisfaction out of that response.

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                      I recognised your account. You have access now.

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                      Linus Smallprint
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                        @ellette-giselle @whalekeeper @theducktator

                        Finished what I know of the outline. You can use the same link as last time. Any thoughts or ideas to fill in the holes? What do you think of it?

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                        Linus Smallprint
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                          @ellette-giselle @whalekeeper @theducktator

                          Now that you’ve all had a chance to read the outline of The Sword, some questions:

                          • As a reader, is this a direction you would be satisfied to see the story take?
                          • What do you think of the character development you see in this (specifically for Alan, Martha, Eric, and Cyrus)?
                          • Now that you’ve seen some more, what are your thoughts on the similarities between Eric and Kalmar?
                          • For all those ideas I had for the middle, which ones would you like to see the most or do you think are the most important? Which one should be cut out or perhaps even moved to book 3?
                          • Are there any holes or contradictions you have noticed that I should look at?

                          Thank you!

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                          #197561
                          Ellette Giselle
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                            i really love the direction.

                            character development seems good and solid. But it’s hard to know that from just reading an outline.

                            again, it all depends on how you play it, but I was feeling Eustace and dragon change more than Kalmar and wolf. (Even though it is a wolf) I think you’re fine and should go for it. I can let you know if it’s feeling Kalmarish if you want.

                            I can’t access those at the moment because they’re saved on the laptop and I’m not signed in on this phone. Either take everyone else’s opinion or give me roughly two weeks to get back to you.

                            not that I see, but again it’s hard to know from and outline as holes and connections tend to be in smaller areas than you’re full outline. I’ll keep an eye out tho!

                            No half-heartedness and no worldly fear must turn us aside from following the light unflinchingly.

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                              @linus-smallprint

                              As a reader, is this a direction you would be satisfied to see the story take?

                              Yes

                              What do you think of the character development you see in this (specifically for Alan, Martha, Eric, and Cyrus)?

                              Seems solid.

                              Now that you’ve seen some more, what are your thoughts on the similarities between Eric and Kalmar?

                              I think it’s different enough that you’re fine.

                              For all those ideas I had for the middle, which ones would you like to see the most or do you think are the most important? Which one should be cut out or perhaps even moved to book 3?

                              I feel like the visit to the Wherl farm idea would work better for three.

                              Are there any holes or contradictions you have noticed that I should look at?

                              No

                              To err is human; to arr is pirate.

                              #197605
                              Linus Smallprint
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                                @ellette-giselle @theducktator

                                Thanks for the feedback! I feel like everything is coming together now. I’m going to try to get this outline polished this week so that I can send it off to my editor for her thoughts.

                                Ducktator, did you see that note I added on the idea of using a slave to push Alan in the direction of trusting and obeying The Saviour? What are your thoughts on that?

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                                #197661
                                The Ducktator
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                                  @linus-smallprint

                                  Ducktator, did you see that note I added on the idea of using a slave to push Alan in the direction of trusting and obeying The Saviour? What are your thoughts on that?

                                  I’m not sure. I see how it would help your story, and it’s an interesting perspective to take. My main concern would be people thinking you support slavery. I don’t remember if you’ve read Harry Potter or not, but Rowling had a species called House Elves, who were similar to what you’re thinking. They sometimes lived in older wizards’ houses, and worked for them. To be freed was considered a disgrace. I’ve seen a lot of very negative reviews criticizing this and claiming that it showed support for slavery. So I think that idea could work, but it would be difficult to pull off.

                                  To err is human; to arr is pirate.

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