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Thank you for your feedback. The first thing you mentioned about Tyn not wanting to see Alan fail is a good point. In Book I, she did look up to him and seeing him resist magic for so long was hope she could overcome her instincts. But when he failed and returned to magic, she began to lose hope, which is why she refused to help anymore after she and Oliver had captured Alan.
For the independent thinking part, Tyn being upset with Alan at the beginning of book II is in line with that. Another thing I forgot to mention is why Tyn didn’t want to stick around with Alan after he joined the Faithful. She tells herself that it was because Alan had finally found other friends and didn’t need her there anymore, and that her help was needed elsewhere. But now that Tyn knows a bit about The Faithful, and that they are a religious group, she finds herself suspicious of them. To Tyn, if there is a Creator, then He gave, or rather, cursed her with the instincts that have held her back her whole life. The Creator is also someone who is in control and is not ready to accept his authority. She’s not about to turn to Him. So when Alan joins The Faithful, and suddenly his behaviour changes (such as his reasons to fight), she is disturbed by this. To her, this kind of looks like he is giving up his independent thinking to some big jerk who thinks he has a right to do whatever he wants with the world. Alan’s decision to not use magic at the cost of his father’s life is especially disturbing to her, as it shows how much he now values this Saviour now. So she isn’t just blindly assuming good and bad. (I don’t think Tyn has completely realized this yet.)
I think Tyn would definitely be upset with Alan. She’s confused right now as she watches her friend be thrown into a situation without independent thinking. She is ashamed that she didn’t do anything to get him out of it when it was in her power (allowing fear of Iskyagus to control her. Maybe I need some scene where she sees solid evidence that Iskyagus is dangerous to make this more real). She will take her anger out on Alan, as he is at the center of all this. If he had chosen to use magic, I think she still be mad at him. It’s not the decision she is angry about, it’s herself. And she is confused, having no idea what she should have done.
With that in mind, what do you think? Do you think Tyn would have still confronted Alan? Do you think she may have said something else other than what she did?
(I’m not entirely sure yet, but I think there is a high likelihood Tyn will join The Faithful in book three, once she accepts that following The Saviour is better than independent thinking.)
Kentor hair is like human hair, except wilder. Here is artwork of Tyn I did a while ago. I need to redraw her again. It’s been some time.
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@linus-smallprint I love that drawing of Tyn! She’s a good balance of humanoid and animal. I like it when authors do that.
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@linus-smallprint you’re welcome!
by the way, will we ever see more gorbs? I kinda miss your humorous Australian lizard people. (you somehow struck everything I like with that one lol)
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Thank you!
by the way, will we ever see more gorbs? I kinda miss your humorous Australian lizard people.
Not likely. Don’t forget that gorbs are enemies of the lyens, so to find one in a lyen country, like Oliver, is rare.
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@linus-smallprint Oh, yeah, I remember that–is there any specific reason for that?
Cause I remember Oliver saying the gorb species was “savage” compared to the lyens, who from your reading seem to be pretty civilized. But I’m also not inclined to trust the lyens’ rating of an enemy’s civility, so.
But that makes me think. Maybe there should be other books set in this universe besides the Narrow Path trilogy. You have an equivalent to all the continents, and species to inhabit them, but TNP only focuses on New Sahvanna for obvious reasons, and we only really get to see the lyens’ culture (unless the third book has them traveling to some other places in the world). All of your other creatures and cultures are really interesting, and it’s be a shame for them to be one-off mentions and then never seen again. Maybe have side stories about characters like Tyn and Stripe, or introduce new characters from the other continents with similar struggles to Alan–for example, a sequel series where Alan is older and mentors a young lyen, kunulf, kentor, or human who also feels the pull of magic, and he and this new character must travel somewhere else in Ehverwyld for some reason. Obviously you don’t have to do any of those now, but you could always save the ideas for later.
"When in doubt, eat cheese crackers."-me to my charries who don't even know about cheese crackers
You could also do something from the perspective of lyen and gorb soldiers during the wars, maybe two members of the Faithful who don’t want to kill each other since they follow the same Savior. (idk if there are gorb Faithful but I would be surprised if there weren’t at least one or two)
Or have one of the other species hear of the lyens’ conquests and grow afraid for themselves–maybe they believe they’ll be next?
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Chapter the 4th is out!
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So when Alan joins The Faithful, and suddenly his behaviour changes (such as his reasons to fight), she is disturbed by this. To her, this kind of looks like he is giving up his independent thinking to some big jerk who thinks he has a right to do whatever he wants with the world.
Ah, there we go! That makes sense. Instead of her own position being particularly more independent, she’s playing the comparison game and seeing Alan as more dependent than she is. *Taps forehead knowingly*
With that in mind, what do you think? Do you think Tyn would have still confronted Alan? Do you think she may have said something else other than what she did?
I’m not sure.
Magic hasn’t been positively seen within the world up until this point… and suddenly it’s allowed. Tyn Alan should both feel some whiplash. Both of them found out about Iskyagus in a whirlwind of confusion. So there’s a level of companionship, even if it isn’t comfortable companionship any longer.
Tyn is stubborn/impulsive, but I feel as if she would give Alan a little room to explain. Especially since, from Alan’s perspective, this is all pretty scary and sad, and Tyn probably guesses that. They were friends, after all.
"If I don't like something, it's probably sanctification. Ugh." -E.C.S.
And also, nice drawing! I now understand. XD I thought she was a lot less humanoid.
"If I don't like something, it's probably sanctification. Ugh." -E.C.S.
And also, nice drawing! I now understand. XD I thought she was a lot less humanoid.
Thank you! Kentor are the most human of all the non-human races. I have a reason for this in the lore, but may not explore it in this series. Hint: it has to do with Kunulfs, the other species native to the area, being more animal than normal.
With that in mind, what do you think? Do you think Tyn would have still confronted Alan? Do you think she may have said something else other than what she did? – Linus
I’m not sure.
Magic hasn’t been positively seen within the world up until this point… and suddenly it’s allowed. Tyn Alan should both feel some whiplash. Both of them found out about Iskyagus in a whirlwind of confusion. So there’s a level of companionship, even if it isn’t comfortable companionship any longer.
Tyn is stubborn/impulsive, but I feel as if she would give Alan a little room to explain. Especially since, from Alan’s perspective, this is all pretty scary and sad, and Tyn probably guesses that. They were friends, after all. – Whaley
Hmmm… I suppose you do have a point there.
@ellette-giselle @keilah-h @stephie @theducktatorWhat do you all think? Is Tyn’s reaction in Chapter the 1st in line with her character? Or do you think she would take a more considerate approach like Whaley is suggesting?
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But that makes me think. Maybe there should be other books set in this universe besides the Narrow Path trilogy. You have an equivalent to all the continents, and species to inhabit them, but TNP only focuses on New Sahvanna for obvious reasons, and we only really get to see the lyens’ culture (unless the third book has them traveling to some other places in the world). All of your other creatures and cultures are really interesting, and it’s be a shame for them to be one-off mentions and then never seen again. Maybe have side stories about characters like Tyn and Stripe, or introduce new characters from the other continents with similar struggles to Alan–for example, a sequel series where Alan is older and mentors a young lyen, kunulf, kentor, or human who also feels the pull of magic, and he and this new character must travel somewhere else in Ehverwyld for some reason. Obviously you don’t have to do any of those now, but you could always save the ideas for later.
I have considered that. I would like to come back and write a side story for Eric, but I can’t say too much about that right now. I have considered stories for other characters as well, but I will think about this more after I finish. Thank you for the suggestions though!
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What do you all think? Is Tyn’s reaction in Chapter the 1st in line with her character? Or do you think she would take a more considerate approach like Whaley is suggesting?
Hmm. It’s a hard question. I’ll have to give it more thought–I found that her reaction didn’t quite suit her, but I can’t really pinpoint why. It might be a good idea to kind of explore motivations and see why she would be acting that way. Maybe it can contribute to a sense of general unease?
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It did seem a bit off character. I don’t know that she’d necessarily be considerate, but I think she’d be more annoyed than mad. Or if she is mad, it’d be for getting them in this mess to begin with.
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I don’t know. It didn’t really stand out to me, but then from your notes I knew it was going to happen.
Whaley did make a strong point.
I think you could go either way.
Honestly, maybe a mix is best.
Either your original way with a little more listening, or Whaley’s way with a little more anger.
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Okay, I think you all have me convinced now. I will rethink Tyn’s behaviour in the opening later and will try to treat her fairer appearances later in the series.
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