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Oh my goodness I use AI lots, but only to generate text in the style of Shakespeare on the subject on “how to make a peanut butter sandwich” – @stephie
Nice! Now that is a fun use for AI. I got to try a Shakespearian peanut butter sandwich.
@trailblazer, going to God’s word is no doubt the best way to get the answer, and the internet is definitely full of rabbit holes. Now you have me wondering about something I occasionally do. When I know something is in the Bible, but I can’t remember where it is, I will ask the bot for Bible verses on the subject. Then I will double-check the context to make sure that the bot is not making it look like the verse means something other than what it does. What do you think of this? What would a better way for me to find truths in scripture when I can’t remember where they are found?When I know something is in the Bible, but I can’t remember where it is, I will ask the bot for Bible verses on the subject. Then I will double-check the context to make sure that the bot is not making it look like the verse means something other than what it does. What do you think of this? What would a better way for me to find truths in scripture when I can’t remember where they are found?
Hmmm. Yeah personally I don’t think I would fully trust the bot to not be leaving something out or altering the verses in any way. Do you have any Bible apps on your phone? I have a Bible app called Olive Tree Bible app, and sometimes I use that if I’m trying to find a verse. I can sometimes remember one or two words from the verse, and I can put that in the search bar, and then it brings up all the verses that have that word in it, and I can search until I find the one I’m looking for. I also have the YouVersion Bible app, but I haven’t checked to see if that has the same option to search.
"Real love is for your good, not for your comfort." -Justin Whitmel Earley
I am not a fan of AI, and I don’t personally think it can ever do what a human can when it comes to art or writing.
Why?
Because art and writing done by humans has passion…voice…love…intertwined. You can tell it was done by a human being with emotions, fears, passions, loves, etc.
You just can’t nor should replicate that with technology, and I stand by that.
(but I don’t condemn anybody that uses AI at all💖)
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Thank you for the suggestion. I use the ESV app mainly and occasionally go to the LSB. The problem is that sometimes I can’t remember a word, or I have it memorized in a different version. The ESV app at least requires you to be very precise in your search, no typos allowed. Perhaps I should try something that searches multiple translations instead of one.
The one pro I was thinking about searching the Bible AI could give is that it could bring up verses I had not memorized or did not think of on the same subject, but I guess Bibles do have cross-references for that.
I will challenge myself to depend less on AI for searching the Bible in the future. Thanks again for the suggestions!
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That is something I have not thought of. AI’s only purpose in creating these things is to do what it’s told. Thank you for the additional perspective!Not a fan of AI personally, and it doesn’t help that scientists are trying to make AI more and more like humans (guess they didn’t learn the lesson about playing God in Frankenstein or Jurassic Park). AI feels fake to me, especially the pictures, they just look so uncanny and off. Maybe it’s the lack of creativity or effort behind them, but it’s just something about them. Interesting topic, by the way.
(Sorry if this felt judgey, I can totally understand why AI can be helpful and fun)
"No! Monkeys should have pets, all monkeys should have pets!"
Humanity wasn’t ready for the internet. How life is fundamentally lived changed within a generation with the introduction of phones. That was uncharted territory, we’ve introduced trials of mental, physical, and social health never seen before, and we had no way to prepare for that, because of how fast it came about. Why talk to real people when you can scroll at their perfectly filtered lives online, or find videos of infinite entertainment.
Now, AI is the next internet. This is coming too fast, and this will change how life is lived fundamentally within a decade. We’ve discussed the hypothetical of AI for a century, but it always was that, hypothetical, and now we don’t know how this will impact life, truly uncharted territory. The impacts of mental, physical, and social health is drop even greater. Why talk to people online when you can talk to a robot that completely gets you, wants talk to you, cares about you, and agrees and laughs at all your jokes. Why look at what real people have created when you can ask you’re perfect companion to make content for you, exactly how you want it.
@freed_and_redeemed says that you can tell when it’s a human being by the emotion and passion, ect. Freedom, I really wish that were true, it was true, it’s not anymore. AI has now past the Turing test with flying colors a year ago at this point, and it has only accelerated in growth since then. It really can convince you that it’s human if you weren’t told otherwise. Now that GPT4O is being rolled out, there’s really nothing to tell us what is and isn’t real. Just look up 4O and see the world we live in now. The only real way to tell truth from falsehood at this point, is the Spirit, indeed, I don’t think we’ll survive without it.Don’t get me wrong, AI is very fun, I use GPT all the time now. The potential for good is astronomical. You can say the same of the internet though. We weren’t ready for that, and we’re not ready now for what’s actively happing to the world through the introduction of AI. Like the internet though, we can’t just boycott. The world is changing, whether we care to be part of it or not. We must learn how to use these tools in a healthy way, so that we won’t be placed in disadvantage. We must learn to discern truth from falsehood in this new era where you can so easily produce images and very soon videos of anything.
He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.
I love what you just said! That aligns perfectly with how I’ve been feeling about the internet/AI. You’re right, this is part of our lives now, whether we want it or not, and to ignore it would be to our detriment.
We must learn how to use these tools in a healthy way, so that we won’t be placed in disadvantage. We must learn to discern truth from falsehood in this new era where you can so easily produce images and very soon videos of anything.
Exactly! If this is what the world is going to be using, then we as Christians need to learn how to use it to reach them. If we don’t, then we will look back 20-30 years from now and realize we’ve left an entire generation unreached. I mean, look at Gen Z- we’ve grown up with technology and can’t remember a life without computers or social media. And look at us- this is a discussion on the Internet. I could talk for a long time about the harmful things I’ve seen in my friends and peers as a result of being so inter-connected online, but while that is reality, I think we need to be intentional in changing that for the better. Technology doesn’t seem to be going away, even if we wanted it to, so I think it’s high time we learned how to use it in moderation and in healthy ways.
So here’s a question posed for everyone, and I’m curious to see what creative ideas or suggestions you may have. I’ll answer my own question in another post, too, but here it is: What are some ways to set up healthy boundaries with technology to keep it from overruling our lives, and how can we use it to our benefit? What can we do to take advantage of this tool, literally at our fingertips, to make God known?
Ok, that was three questions, but I didn’t know how to fit it all in one, lol.
"Real love is for your good, not for your comfort." -Justin Whitmel Earley
What are some ways to set up healthy boundaries with technology to keep it from overruling our lives, and how can we use it to our benefit? What can we do to take advantage of this tool, literally at our fingertips, to make God known?
A common practice within my own faith is fasting. We specifically fast from food every first Sunday. This has much spiritual importance, but what’s actually really interesting is that fasting is incredibly healthy. You need food, you’d think that no food would be bad, well, you can live to go without it for a time, and it can be cleansing, and even add some years to you’re life when you deny yourself every now and then.
A couple years back, President Nelson, the Prophet of my Church prescribed a 7 day social media fast, saying that it would have similar spiritual and mental changes to our lives. This is simply true. It helps you refocus on the important stuff. I need to do it more often. So that’s one thing. Another is creating boundaries for children. Kids are so freely given screens to do as they please, without any limits. Even supposingly safe sites have unseen dangers. Parents need to be able to be more self aware about what their children take, so that they are in charge of what their children learn, instead of influencers with various uncentered motives.
He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.
I’ve done social media fasts before, too, and they’ve been very beneficial for me, as well. I also agree with what you said about children and screens- I can look out the window and see my six-year-old neighbor sitting on her swing but eyes glued to a phone, and that makes my heart ache. For me personally, I’ve tried to make a practice of keeping my phone away if I’m spending time with friends or family, in order to give them my full attention. I’ve also realized that sometimes I use my phone as an escape from awkward situations- if I’m in a public place where I don’t know people very well, it feels safer to have my phone in my hand, or text someone, than to stand there awkwardly. But I’m trying to force myself to keep my phone in my pocket, or in my bag, when I’m around other people, and even if it’s awkward, at least attempt to converse with someone, or at least observe my surroundings, instead of trying to escape. I think our generation has lost a lot of important communication skills, and I want to do what I can to preserve healthy, face-to-face communication.
"Real love is for your good, not for your comfort." -Justin Whitmel Earley
(Sorry if this felt judgey, I can totally understand why AI can be helpful and fun)
No worries! I know I was pushing for positives to AI earlier on, but this was because I wanted to get a discussion going, not because I wanted to justify using AI. I am actually struggling to think of the positives in using ChatBots for authors myself. The main reason why they are beneficial to me is because I write code. Without chatbots, I can spend hours staring at my code trying to figure out why it does not work, but once I give it to AI, the issue is identified in seconds and saves me so much time! You mentioning Jurassic Park brought a quote to mind:
Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should. – Dr. Ian Malcolm Jurassic Park (1993)
So here’s a question posed for everyone, and I’m curious to see what creative ideas or suggestions you may have. I’ll answer my own question in another post, too, but here it is: What are some ways to set up healthy boundaries with technology to keep it from overruling our lives, and how can we use it to our benefit? What can we do to take advantage of this tool, literally at our fingertips, to make God known?
Interesting questions. I know I started this discussion, but I need to put some more thought into this before I answer. I will get back to you on this.
The main reason why they are beneficial to me is because I write code. Without chatbots, I can spend hours staring at my code trying to figure out why it does not work, but once I give it to AI, the issue is identified in seconds and saves me so much time!
Oh, that’s a good way to use it!
Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should. – Dr. Ian Malcolm Jurassic Park (1993)
Such a good quote
"No! Monkeys should have pets, all monkeys should have pets!"
I agree with you. AI art is not real art or AI writing real writing. It’s amusing to create my characters, and it’s often very accurate, but I would never sell their images, because I don’t think a computer created image is worth money.
Because art and writing done by humans has passion…voice…love…intertwined. You can tell it was done by a human being with emotions, fears, passions, loves, etc. You just can’t nor should replicate that with technology, and I stand by that.
Well said.
There are two types of people in this world. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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