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Hello everyone,
We now live in the 21st century where AI is becoming a very normal thing. For us authors, we can use it to write and illustrate stories, give feedback on them, and help us to brainstorm ideas. I am curious to know what you all think about it. Is this something we should use, and to what extent? Does anyone have any stories to share about experiences with AI?
I’ve been using AI to generate pictures of my characters, but I would never use it to write something in my WIP. The pictures are nice though. My brother has used it to generate pictures of ducks in fedoras.
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Devote reddamus!I have not found AI very useful in writing (except for asking very specific technical questions), but to be fair I’ve only used ChatGPT which is not the brightest. I don’t have much opinion on things like that. However, I do not like AI art. I used to play around with it a bit, but I don’t do that anymore. It honestly gives me the creeps. The absolutely horrible and depraved things it is capable of makes my skin crawl (I mostly stopped after I heard of Lobe [if you haven’t heard of it do not google it. I cannot stress this enough, do not do it]).
I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with it, and I’m certainly not judging anyone who likes to use it, but it’s something that should be used with caution.
Anyway, there’s my two cents.
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Thanks for the warning. I haven’t seen anything particularly awful, though I usually just describe character facial features or ducks for fear of getting something explicit. I use Playground AI, and sometimes Canva. I figured AI was safer than just googling images. Ugh, now I’m insanely curious about that word. I won’t look it up though, don’t worry.
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Look at this. XD
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Devote reddamus!Ok, that’s pretty funny 😂
I think it’s pretty hard to accidentally generate a horrible image, but it can happen especially if you give the AI too much free reign. I’ve never had it happen to me either.
Lobe has been dubbed the ‘first cryptid of the latent space’ (don’t ask me what that means). It originated from a root image someone accidentally generated which has since then amassed a cult following. It is used to create images of unspeakable horror and gore.
Thankfully, I’ve never seen any of these images, but yeah, it’s really disgusting.
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I have not used AI, and honestly, while I’m sure it can be used for good, I feel like it just steals from the creative nature God gave us as humans. I want to allow God to use my imagination and my creativity to create something that brings glory to Him, and for me, using AI would probably cause me to use my imagination less and less until I’m so rusty it’s difficult to create anything on my own.
That’s my opinion so far, but as you mentioned, it’s something new, so as time goes on and we see more of the benefits vs. the dangers, maybe I will form a different (or perhaps stronger) opinion.
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Wow. That’s disturbing. I kind of want to put it in a novel now.
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Devote reddamus!I will start by saying I am kind of a techhie.
I also ❤️ Open AI (ChatGPT)
But I would also say using AI to write things or do non-prototyping imaging is extremly unethical. Mostly just because of the way the AI works (a quick google search (or honestly asking chaGPT) can probably explain this better than me).
In terms of writing use I only really use chatGPT as thesaurus (which it is insanly good at (just double check word meanings)) and for name generation.
Outside of writing I really enjoy just messing around with it and asking it strange questions or trying to get it to play games. It does these tasks to varying degrees of actual success but it is nonetheless a great bordom buster when I am just waiting around with my phone.
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light shines brightestLove that article. Also love the bee (and you know its exstintions)
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light shines brightestI could talk about this topic for a long time, but I’ll try to keep it short because as somebody entering the art industry, it’s a real hot topic and there is a lot of division over it.
Nearly all ai images are stolen artwork. The artists don’t give their consent, and from what I’ve heard as soon as they get one of their images taken out of a training pack (used to train new software to make images), others appear in it’s place. You can’t prevent your work from being stolen. As somebody who’s spent many years developing my own unique art style, I can’t imagine an ai taking it and making super quick images out of it.
Ai is used to write books too, and I can’t help but notice a lot of writers are soooo upset their favorite authors have had work stolen to train ai, but have no problem with stolen artwork, and sometimes even using ai art programs. I mean, just think that the images the program makes of your characters, were once other people’s oc’s who were stolen. : (
Ai art sometimes resembles this digital amine style, and now the artists who originally had that artstyle are being accused of not being an artist, and using ai. They’ll be asked to ‘prove it’ with a process video sometimes, which can then be stolen to train ai to make process videos to claim authenticity. Which is absolutely disgusting imo.
An anti ai software has been developed so artists can in a sense encrypt their art, so if it is stolen it won’t yield any useable image, but they have to be one step ahead of the ai industry in order for it to work.
Anyways, just my two cents. Getting a degree in design means having ai take my job in the future is a real threat. It’s not ‘art’, it’s stolen image regurgitation lol. I know as ai becomes more integrated into society it will be hard to avoid, but I’ll always stand for the real creatives out there.
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That was definitely not short 😂
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I have used AI a bit myself, for some of the things I have mentioned at the beginning. However, the more I do it, the less comfortable I feel about it. I’ve noticed that the stories can get very samey over time. I do still get curious, wondering if I put a chapter of my story in it, if it will be able to predict. For feedback, ChatGPT 3.5 cannot remember enough of the story to give it properly and is inconsistent. Definitely not as reliable as a real person. AI art can be a little funny at times like what theDuctator shared (thanks for sharing) (after Wyoh is defeated, ask me about the Canadian Lyentaur), but I would never use that to illustrate my book.
There are some problems I do have with it. First, it always takes your side. I know of only one person who got into an actual disagreement with it, which was over the topic of whether or not the truth is relative. Ask it to write something about Christ, and it will do that. But it will just as easily write a paper supporting atheism. Because of this, I would not trust it to handle any serious topic.
As you mentioned, Trailblazer, it is not good to let our creative juices go to waste. Having asked AI to make some stories, I’ve started to feel less creative, and it isn’t fun. It’s not like the stories it comes up with are that great either. Not only can it take away creativity, but it also can take away thinking skills. This can be dangerous for Christians as we should be studying God’s word and meditating upon it (Psalm 1:2). Even if we know beforehand a truth we want to teach and ask AI to write that story for us, we end up not thinking that truth through and don’t end up fully understanding it ourselves.
My last problem is what MineralizedWritings was mentioning. I knew AI was taking over jobs, but I did not realize it was to that extent. I would hate to have my style stolen too (even if Joe Sutphin heavily inspired my style, although I have developed some differences.) As a Web Developer and Designer, I am already returning to school and go look in a slightly different area before AI completely takes over my job. As an artist as well, I do not want to take people’s jobs as illustrators from them.
We’ve talked a lot about the cons of AI, but what about the pros? Otherworldly Historian, you mentioned a couple of uses for it. I have used the bot as a thesaurus and name generation as well, which is useful. Could also use the bot for research? Instead of thinking for us, could we get AI to attack a position we have taken to see if it comes up with any opposing viewpoints we have not thought of? I’ve heard of an author who uses AI voices to read the chapters in her book, which she posts on YouTube to get it out. Would this also be unethical AI theft, or is this a way we can share our work with others?
@highscribeofaetherium, @theducktator, @trailblazer, @otherworldlyhistorian, @mineralizedwritingsEven if we know beforehand a truth we want to teach and ask AI to write that story for us, we end up not thinking that truth through and don’t end up fully understanding it ourselves.
I like how you said that! Sometimes I think the more technology advances, the less creative we become, because the technology starts to do all the thinking for us and we don’t use our brains as much anymore. And I think as Christians, it’s important that we know what we believe (and more importantly than that, know truth) and have an understanding of that, and with technology providing a slew of answers to nearly every question we have, it’s treading dangerous territory. I’ve been challenged lately to go back to God and His Word with my questions and ask Him first before seeking out another source. Sure, He may lead me to do an Internet search for something, but without His wisdom and guidance to lead me, I could go down all sorts of rabbit holes that don’t provide any truth for me to stand on.
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Oh my goodness I use AI lots, but only to generate text in the style of Shakespeare on the subject on “how to make a peanut butter sandwich”
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Ho bisogno di sentimenti."
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