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You can still share those, since I would classify fantastical powers/abilities as magic on this topic. Basically we’re here to talk about any fantastical abilities, technically magic in-story or not. XD
Okay perfect!
I’m still fleshing those out a little as to why and how their powers work, but I’ll share some in a bit!
Heeyy, you’ve got it really fleshed out!! A lie-based magic system is a great idea. I would ask you more questions, but I can’t think of any right now because you fleshed it out so well.
Thank you so muchhh <33 Aw girl I was worried I was going on a rant nobody would be able to follow…so I’m glad you could follow it!!!!!
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Okay everyone, I’m gonna share some of the races in my world!
Aquinos:
Aquinos have blue skin, hair, and eyes. They have the power to pull moisture out of the air and manipulate it. If there is no moisture in the air, they are helpless. They also tend to be easily dehydrated if they’ve used their power too much, but most of the time they can simply pull moisture from the air and rehydrate.
Azers:
Azers have red/orange skin, hair and eyes.
Azers have a special gland on their palm that releases extremely flammable oils. The oils are indetectable and feel like sweat or water.
Azers kind of are like reverse-Aquinos, because instead of pulling moisture from the air and leaving the air dry, Azers pull the dry air part out of the air and leave moisture in the air. When they rub the oil on any object, they do this and somehow it creates flames. They have extremely tough, thick skin and flames don’t burn them (and their hair isn’t flammable and doesn’t burn) They have the ability to produce a large amount of the oil and become flames themselves, covered in head to toe in fire.
If the air is too humid, they are helpless.
If the air is dry, they are practically unstoppable. This is why Aquinos and Azers are natural enemies because one can easily overpower the other depending on strength and environment.
Pitts:
Pitts have varieties of characteristics. Some have green skin, hair and eyes, others have olive complexions with green hair and eyes, some have green skin eyes and brown hair. But all of them have earthy undertones of green, olive, or brown.
Pitts have the power to sing and manipulate nature through their amazing voices *insert jazz hands and sparkles and unicorns*.
Their beautiful voices can coax the most stubborn plants to dance around them and do their bidding. They cannot manipulate people this way (though some Pitts that have become Pythonos are able to do this because being Pythonos corrupts your already existing powers).
If a Pitt can’t sing, they can’t control the plants as they do not have telepathic powers. As long as they are unbound and can sing, they can control the plants.
They are very skilled at defending themselves, so Pitts are hard to subdue.
Estrellos:
Estrellos can bend light. They have the power to pull light to themselves, and some view this as the power to manipulate darkness. In reality, darkness is simply the absence of light and so they are really just light benders.
They can allow light to pass through them, making them invisible.
At a glance, Estrellos don’t appear very powerful, but they are extremely hard to find when one doesn’t want to be found, and they can easily blind people by directing light from the sun straight into a person’s eyes as a defense tactic.
Estrellos typically have hazel eyes, tan skin and blonde hair.
Estrellos have a special organ at their core (located mid abdomen, near the base of their ribs) that allows them to do this. If they are unconscious or this organ is either surgically removed or held stagnant with a drug, they are helpless. Also, if they are stabbed or bruised enough, the organ will not function properly, so that’s an easy way to defeat one as well.
The only way to capture an Estrello would be to either kill them or knock them unconscious, or they can easily overpower you.
Erstonians:
Erstonians live across the Nordvick from Andromeda (the main continent). They were banished from Andromeda due to their dangerous powers to shapeshift and perform mind illusions on people (banished long before the Pythonos took over).
They have their own government and are essentially an entirely different race of people, though they once lived with the other races and are technically Andromedans.
They can shapeshift at will and can “hypnotize” people. They are a rough people, constantly partaking in bloody tournaments.
However, the Pythonos haven’t succeeded in overtaking Erstonia, because of their natural barriers and fearsome military.
Paynes:
Paynes are the result of a genetic mutation that occurs when one parent is full Andromedan and the other is human.
Some are horribly disfigured, some resemble humans or their Andromedan parent, and some even have part of their parents’ powers.
The reason the Pythonos made the Paynes a scapegoat was because they wanted to unite the Andromedans against a common enemy. If they could succeed in lying to the entire population and convince them that Paynes were worthless, they could bind almost everyone to their lies, becoming stronger all the while.
Also, Paynes are the one race of people who do not physically have the ability to transform into Pythonos. However they are more vulnerable to the Pythonos’s lies, which is why several Paynes are sold as slaves to the Pythonos, just as a source to feed Pythonos power (this is what happens to Sef later on in my book)
More little things I came up with:
- If, for example, an Azer and Pitt have children together, the child will NOT be a mix of both. The child will either be Azer or Pitt. But in some rare cases, genetic mutations occur and the child is a mix. An example from my book would be Ottoline, who is half Azer and half Aquino. this is a rare and interesting case, because fire and water are constantly battling, trying to overpower each other. The effects of being a half breed are agonizing and drive most to madness. Most half breeds die before the age of five. Ottoline has a split personality, as it is the only way she can cope with the agony of being half fire, half water. She calls her Aquino side Naami and her Azer side Ottoline. She’s very unstable and can’t control when she switches between her two selves, or her own powers.
- Before the Pythonos, Paynes were looked down on, but not hated. They were kind of ostrasized, but they weren’t outcasts.
- Naturally, each race seems to gravitate towards each other, because they are familiar. Azers tend to live with Azers, and Aquinos tend to live with Aquinos, and so on, but they don’t hate each other and they welcome other races, for the most part. Azers and Aquinos do have a violent history and they just don’t like each other (which is why Ottoline being half of each is so interesting and unique to write)
- The Pythonos first moved in and took over all the Payne cities, before moving on to take Lir. For the most part, they treated the other races well, but treated the Paynes like animals, relocating them and destroying everything they owned.
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Are the runes like tattoos on the characters’ skin? Or are they magical symbols seared into the characters’ minds? Basically how do the runes manifest physically, if at all?
So someone must be born with runes, and the runes are technically birthmarks, but they look more like tattoos.
On a non-living object the process can be different for different materials.
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#AnduthForever (Lord Willing)Wow, name-changing is becoming a common trend.
Tsk, tsk. No self-deprecation allowed on this topic.
Now you sound like Andrew lol
Does Chase have the element of Creatures? After all, he is the ultimate ✨Disney Princess✨!
I have that meme saved somewhere…
Yes, he’s actually the reason that element came to be. He’s also the reason I decided that Shyiads and Slyiads are born with both elemental and energy powers.
And the Wondian unicorn does this, right? So can fantastical beings have these abilities?
Yes, at least the one Chase knows. I haven’t decided if all unicorns have this same power, I’ve pondered giving each unicorn a different one.
Yes, fantastical beings can have these powers, though they usually are rare.
Oh, an interesting thing about dragons from my world is they often have a lifelong connection to something or someone. This could be an element, a person, a befriended creature, or even a season. It’s just a little fact that you didn’t need to know.
Every time you smile, a flower blooms somewhere in the world.
#AnduthForever (hopefully💕)Thanks for the debriefing! I’ve read up on these concepts before, but it’s been so long since I focused on them, that I felt you were better able to summarize these things.
Of these, I think effects is actually the least important. Access and costs can both be very important, but cost probably a bit more so.
Definitely agree with this. Any effect can be a benefit, not all costs can be enough of a setback.
I once beta-read a book which is now published, and it had a big magic problem which the author didn’t rewrite. I think she didn’t think it was important in the grand scheme of things. (And that’s her decision to make. It was more of a romance than a plot-heavy story anyway.) The deuteragonist was called the Voice of Command, and his power allowed him to command people to do things, and they had to obey. As the story continued, he was able to command objects and substances. He commanded objects to teleport to him in the blink of an eye. Anyway, there were no costs, so when the final battle happened, I never understood why he couldn’t just command the villain to stop.
Also, thank you for distinguishing between access and cost, because I almost always lump those two things together in my mind and it can come out looking a little undefined.
I decided, for my magic system, the accessibility is so finicky that the power will switch on and off at key times and potentially hurt the user. It would be like using super-strength to stop a train, and going back and forth between activated power and deactivation. Except for this power, the effects of deactivation are extremely brutal.
You can share one of your systems if you want, Jonas! I think it’s safe to say you have a few. XD
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Literally everyone loves your concept, so you’ve got originality conquered and in the bag, girl. XD
I love it so much but it loves to frustrate me and taunt me with its vagueness. Maybe you guys could help me make it make sense?
Ideas ideas
– An Ink drawing melts away after a certain time limit
– After the artist draws something, they lose all visual memory of the real life thing, so they have to re-learn how to draw it if they want to recreate it.
– The bigger a drawing is (and the more filled in with Ink it is), the more strength it has. This is if you want the drawings to physically push and pull things around. But Ink is an expensive commodity, so a lot of artists can’t achieve that.
– The skill of the artist affects the work. Doodles will only be two-dimensional, and any three-dimensional manifestations of the Ink would have to be well-drawn with accurate dimensional depth.
I think there is also a way to attain all abilities by murdering those possessing them in a certain ritual
There’s villain potential in that. It would be really heart-wrenching if the villain killed one of the main character’s friends and sapped them of their power.
Clearly, I don’t know what I’m doing. XD
That’s fine! Does anyone really know what they’re doing? Nope, cuz all of this is imaginary. XD
Maybe the elemental people have really cool appearances to indicate their element. Or each of them has a little bit of the element they have to protect, because it contains their soul. Like a flame, or an earthly seedling, or something.
*Appears out of random shadow, that is somehow in the middle of a field with no clouds, or any object to cast a shadow.*
This your first time?
Nope. 😁 I have been chased with pitchforks many a time. Never gets old, though.
I use magic… Why no tag for me? ;(
My bad!
Ah, so your Keepers have additional qualities vaguely connected to the elements. Water-healing, fire-strength, wind-emotion, and earth-growth. I never would have thought of that!
If you would like to hear more,i could tell you! (sorry this was a lot, and fine of you didn’t read all of it)
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They don’t have blood, but if cut the wound will spill light that in turn heals it.
That’s some cool concept imagery. 😎
So there are “laws unbreakable” like the cost of reason and the concept of ransom blood which are deep in the fabric of the world.
How does the concept of ransom blood work? What are some of the other unbreakable laws (if you’ve thought them up yet)?
Also hey, light and dark is a very universal metaphor, and if you add some of the literal uses of light/dark in the scientific world, that could make for a system which is on the high allegorical side, but concrete in some ways at the same time.
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They reject forgiveness and chase “honor,” with their own messed-up government (long story).
This could make for a lot of interesting world-building related to values in different societies. The honor value reminds me of the Iliad and the Odyssey which I’m reading this year.
Benimalans have a martial art for destruction magic, and others are crafting magic masterpieces.
I looooove martial arts magic. I mean, this is destructive magic so it’s bad, but I still love the concept. What do you mean by ‘masterpieces’? Art? Inventions?
Enjoy, and remember: Magic is a delicate recipe.
*Throws it all into a bowl and chows down*
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but most of the time they can simply pull moisture from the air and rehydrate.
Mooooost of the time. Except when they’re in the desert. 😁 Or if they get freeze-dried and packaged. (That got dark…)
If a Pitt can’t sing, they can’t control the plants as they do not have telepathic powers. As long as they are unbound and can sing, they can control the plants.
Just imagine if a Pitt was born mute. That would be a really interesting character. I bet they would still feel an emotional connection to plants even if they can’t sing to them.
Estrellos have a special organ at their core (located mid abdomen, near the base of their ribs) that allows them to do this.
Ooh I like that.
(this is what happens to Sef later on in my book)
*Gasps* Girl is at the bottom of the food chain, that’s no good.
Okay, that makes sense. I can imagine objects would have patterns on them, maybe ridges and cracks to indicate the runes. That could lead to some interesting cultural art if the people embraced that element of nature. But that’s just where my mind goes.
Wow, name-changing is becoming a common trend.
Yeppers-peppers. You are a trend-setter.
Yes, he’s actually the reason that element came to be. He’s also the reason I decided that Shyiads and Slyiads are born with both elemental and energy powers.
I have definitely started with character and based my system off what I imagine the character can do. That’s like, literally the premise of the magic system in Lovedream.
Did you name them Shyiad and Slyiad because those are their personalities, kind of? XD
Oh, an interesting thing about dragons from my world is they often have a lifelong connection to something or someone. This could be an element, a person, a befriended creature, or even a season. It’s just a little fact that you didn’t need to know.
It’s kind of like how some religions have the spirits of animals protecting different concepts or places.
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You can share one of your systems if you want, Jonas! I think it’s safe to say you have a few. XD
You could say that… (It’s about 13…)
I’ll see if I have a good one I haven’t talked about much.
I once beta-read a book which is now published, and it had a big magic problem which the author didn’t rewrite. I think she didn’t think it was important in the grand scheme of things. (And that’s her decision to make. It was more of a romance than a plot-heavy story anyway.) The deuteragonist was called the Voice of Command, and his power allowed him to command people to do things, and they had to obey. As the story continued, he was able to command objects and substances. He commanded objects to teleport to him in the blink of an eye. Anyway, there were no costs, so when the final battle happened, I never understood why he couldn’t just command the villain to stop.
I’ve thought about a magic system like that actually. It’s a cool concept. But commanding literally anything you want with no costs definitely seems OP. Personally, I would at least have given it the limitation that the objects are still bound by their physical natures, because if you can literally make objects teleport, is there anything you can’t do? It seems like that would open up a lot of easy solutions to almost every problem. An easy justification for why he couldn’t tell the villain to stop would be, ‘with enough willpower you can resist,’ but I’m guessing that wasn’t ever mentioned?
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Nope. 😁 I have been chased with pitchforks many a time. Never gets old, though.
Ah, understandable
Ah, so your Keepers have additional qualities vaguely connected to the elements. Water-healing, fire-strength, wind-emotion, and earth-growth. I never would have thought of that!
Thanks! I like connecting things and the dots.. so yeah!
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Okay, so here’s a magic system that I’ve been working on for a long time and keep modifying, but I feel is in a pretty good place now.
(Technically, it’s more like two magic systems, but they are highly connected to each other.)
First, to understand it, you need a quick crash course in my universe’s rules.
Humans are made up of five aspects: The physical aspect (the body), the psychological aspect (the brain), the mental aspect (the mind), the spiritual aspect, and the soul. The soul is the main essence of a person (just like in real life), and can’t be harmed or altered by magic, although it can be bound to the mortal world by it. Without a connection to the physical world, the soul departs. By default, the soul is bound to the body by the spiritual aspect.
The spiritual aspect exists so that I can “have my cake and eat it too.” I personally am not entirely comfortable with the idea of magic effecting the soul in fantasy, because that can have disturbing implications (think dementors). But it’s also a cool concept sometimes. This way, I have the spiritual aspect, which holds a person’s spiritual connections and other magical information, which can be broken and manipulated, while the soul is still immutable and immortal.
Soulforging is a magic system that allows the user to split off pieces of their spiritual aspect and bind them to a metal object, granting it Arcane powers. (This is very much a LOTR inspired magic system. Essentially, I wanted to make a hard magic system that felt similar to the mechanics of the One Ring.) These objects (creatively called “Soulforgings”) are imbued with a single prime Command upon creation, which has a great effect on what they do. Soulforgings slowly develop sentience (to a varying degree depending on how much of a person’s spiritual aspect is inside of them.) Their personality will be influenced by their creator’s as well as their Command. The longer they’ve existed, however, the more free will a Soulforging develops, giving it greater ability to ignore its Command (though this remains difficult.)
Splitting off too much of your spiritual aspect is dangerous, however, and can lead to negative effects such as loss of memory and sanity, and even death (as their soul may not have enough connection left to the body to remain bound.)
Another side effect of Soulforging is that, upon death, the person’s soul remains somewhat bound to the physical realm (via any Soulforgings they made.) If they have enough of their spiritual aspect tied to the physical realm, the connections can be strong enough for them to remain for some time, though without further intervention, they will eventually slip away and depart anyway. A person in this state is called a Wraith. They appear in the physical realm as a three-dimensional shadow and are completely intangible.
(Soulforgings can also produce a Wraith if they are destroyed, though these are usually less aware and fade away faster.)
A related system is called Shadowmancy. It is possible to form a bond with a Wraith. This helps the Wraith remain bound to the physical realm and gives the mortal Arcane powers. A Shadewalker can pull themselves partially out of the physical realm which allows them to phase through solid objects and interact with Wraiths. Wraiths appear more human but are pale and lack any color.
Additionally, Shadewalkers can pull the Wraith further into the physical realm, using them for assistance, although this takes a lot of effort. Slightly more easily, a Shadewalker can condense the Wraith’s essence into a small object such as a weapon of dark energy. More easily than that, a Shadewalker can insert the Wraith into a pre-existing physical object, granting it some Arcane properties (such as a cloak wreathing its wearer in shadow, or a blade cutting more easily.) However, overuse of their abilities can put too much strain on the bond between Shadewalker and Wraith, resulting in the Shadewalker being pulled from their body and becoming a Wraith themselves while the Wraith is pulled all the way into the physical realm (though with no true body, they fade away again quickly.) A Shadewalker can be bonded to multiple Wraiths, but each one increases the strain on the bond.
Finally, Soulforging and Shadowmancy have a sort of hybrid system between them called Shadeforging. It is possible to use a Wraith, rather than your own spiritual aspect, to create a Soulforging (though in this case it is called a “Shadeforging”). These are more dangerous and unstable, and the Wraith’s influence alters the properties somewhat. This also can allow a Wraith to regain physical form, though they are dependent on the Shadeforging and must keep it with them at all times.
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Your magic system has some interesting parallels to a magic system called Awakening from a book called Warbreaker. Have you heard of or read it?
No I haven’t, but it sounds interesting.
If you want me to, I can give you a brief description of how it works.)
Sure! (Don’t worry, I won’t plagiarize lol)
What is the process of using Ink to bring an object to life?
You kinda just… put it on the thing. I’ve had characters accidentally spill some and make a few little things come alive around them. It doesn’t work on everything though. Only things that are made to resemble life can actually come alive like toys, pictures, machines, sculptures, ect.
For the automatons and probably the other machines I was thinking the ink could be used as a sort of lubricant maybe and they just apply it to the joints.
What useful things is a sentient Ink drawing capable of doing?
Not much now that I think about it. They’re pretty restricted by their 2d form. They can become a solid 3d form for maybe 2ish seconds before splashing back into 2d. So Benny could push someone or pinch them or knock something over like a cat, but that’s about it.
Thanks for the help! I talked with my dad about it a bit ago and he helped me fill in some holes, so now I’m a lot happier with the whole system now.
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