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    Cloaked Mystery
    @jonas
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      @theducktator

      Old-earth. There just seems to be too much scientific evidence that this is the case. (For example, the stars are millions to billions of light years away, so in order for the light to have reached us, the universe has to be at least that old, or God created the light already in transit, which seems weird–it’s not like he’s on a time crunch or anything.)

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      #203390
      Ellette Giselle
      @ellette-giselle
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        @theducktator

        young-earth creationist.

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        #203393
        whaley
        @whalekeeper
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          @theducktator

          I don’t care too much either way. It’s not important to the Gospel or to proving the Bible.

          The Bible implies a young Earth but doesn’t explain it outright. The Earth scientifically looks like it’s old but there are inconsistencies.

          Jonas pointed out starlight. God wanted the lights to appear on the fourth day. Could the fourth day represent billions of years? Sure, but God can easily make the light reach Earth in a day anyway. There’s no way to know how he did it, just that he did it.

          I don’t see why God couldn’t have made everything to look developed (or ‘evolved’) to an extent. So I believe in young-Earth. But whether you believe in young or old shouldn’t have any impact on your Christianity.

          I will make you lose The Game with me.

          #203394
          Stepheroni and Cheese
          @stephie
            • Rank: Knight in Shining Armor
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            @whalekeeper exactly

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            #203410
            Three Ducks in a Trench Coat
            @theducktator
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              @keilah-h

              I tend to lean towards global flood as well. That’s something I hadn’t considered regarding rock layers.


              @grcr

              My dad says that there are a lot of generations skipped in those genealogies, and that they only recorded the more important people, so that’s why he doesn’t think that they are a very accurate way to calculate the age of humanity.


              @stephie

              I understand what you’re getting at. XD Yeah, earth age beliefs are definitely not worth dying for. But it’s an interesting topic.


              @koshka

              So I probably should have clarified, I’m still a creationist. I just think that the days in Genesis weren’t literal 24 hour days. For one thing, literal 24 hour days weren’t a thing until day 4. Also, somewhere in Hebrews it mentions that we are still living in the seventh day, (though my dad thinks it’s the eighth day now since the temple’s been destroyed), which leads me to believe that they were ages.


              @rae
              @ellette-giselle

              I probably should have clarified, I’m still a creationist. XD


              @jonas

              Exactly. There’s a physicist my dad said to read more on the subject, but I forgot his name. Hugh something or other.


              @whalekeeper

              But whether you believe in young or old shouldn’t have any impact on your Christianity.

              Yeah, there are definitely more important issues to argue about. It’s an interesting topic though.

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              #203411
              Keilah H.
              @keilah-h
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                @theducktator glad I could be of assistance!!

                 

                "When in doubt, eat cheese crackers."-me to my charries who don't even know about cheese crackers

                #203412
                -GRCR-
                @grcr
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                  @theducktator

                  That’s an interesting perspective.

                   

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                  #203416
                  Ruth
                  @rae
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                    I’m just gonna say it and the banish myself from this topic


                    @theducktator

                    My dad says that there are a lot of generations skipped in those genealogies, and that they only recorded the more important people, so that’s why he doesn’t think that they are a very accurate way to calculate the age of humanity.

                    The Bible doesn’t say ‘and there were many more generations before…’ Therefore there were not. If you believe there were, then you doubt the accurate truth of God’s word, and if you doubt one part, you can doubt the rest. If there were many unmentioned generations just because they weren’t important, God would have said so. I’m sorry I 100% disagree with your dad and find his stance unbiblical.

                     

                    Okay, okay, I’m banishing myself now…

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                    #203417
                    whaley
                    @whalekeeper
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                      @rae

                      To be fair, the Hebrew might allow for a something similar to fathering a nation when it says ‘this guy fathered this guy.’ Which would then not be dependent on time. I’m curious about this so I’ll have to ask my dad, he’s the Hebrew nerd.

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                      #203438
                      freedom
                      @freed_and_redeemed
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                        @theducktator Young-Earth Creationist, 1000% percent.

                        There’s too much evidence that if the earth was billions of years old that a lot of the formations and things we have today could have long ago been destroyed. And how can slow fossilization explain creatures that were fossilized while eating? Or how could it explain how scientists have been able to find living tissue in dinosaurs, with blood cells completely intact, which would’ve died years upon years ago if the earth is billions of years old?

                         

                        I also disagree with the idea that an old earth vs new earth isn’t all that important

                         

                        I can’t even begin to say how many Christians I’ve seen that the idea of evolution or even just an old earth is what makes them walk away from the faith, or at the very least makes them doubt. And an old earth and evolution go hand in hand, there’s no separating the two and saying one is true, and the other isn’t.

                         

                        If we can’t believe the very beginning of the Bible, paragraph by paragraph, sentence by sentence, word by word, letter by letter…then why should we believe the rest of it? What if it’s all just a fairytale, and we shouldn’t believe any of it?

                         

                        Believing in the Gospel takes faith, and the rest of it does too.

                         

                        And I believe, through all of the research I’ve done, through all of the research I’ve seen and heard others do, that an old earth just doesn’t make sense.

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                        #203439
                        freedom
                        @freed_and_redeemed
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                          @rae

                          The Bible doesn’t say ‘and there were many more generations before…’ Therefore there were not. If you believe there were, then you doubt the accurate truth of God’s word, and if you doubt one part, you can doubt the rest. If there were many unmentioned generations just because they weren’t important, God would have said so. I’m sorry I 100% disagree with your dad and find his stance unbiblical.

                          👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 so well put

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                          #203441
                          Keilah H.
                          @keilah-h
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                            @rae @freed_and_redeemed looks like you two have the closest beliefs to mine.

                             

                             

                            Not that I discriminate based on that but it’s just interesting.

                            "When in doubt, eat cheese crackers."-me to my charries who don't even know about cheese crackers

                            #203445
                            whaley
                            @whalekeeper
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                              No offense, but somebody has already been called unbiblical for believing in old Earth when we haven’t even defined these terms yet. And I don’t think that’s great. I feel like it’s jumping the gun.

                              Can somebody define ‘young Earth,’ ‘old Earth,’ and ‘biblical’ please? There are different versions of old Earth, and ‘unbiblical’ is being thrown around without much thought.

                              I will make you lose The Game with me.

                              #203463
                              SLAYING SARAAAA ✨✨
                              @savannah_grace2009
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                                @WHALEKEEPER

                                YES WHALEY

                                THANK YOU FOR BRINGING SOME SANITY TO THIS

                                I APPRECIATE YOU hahaha

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                                #203486
                                Power
                                @power
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                                  A thought on star light millions of light years away.

                                  If you do a Bible search, there are several verses that mention God stretching and bowing the heavens. (Isa 42:5, 45:12, 51:13, Jer 10:12, 2 Sam 22:10, Psalms 18:9)

                                  Take a look at Strongs H5186. It’s pretty cool! 😉

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