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@savannah_grace2009 @the_lost-journal
Plus, the Bible requires two things if you want to read it. Context, and an open mind. You need history and context to even understand HALF, if not ALL of the Bible.
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Context and History is all in the Bible. Reading other passages helps you understand other passages.
I would like to add something about this…
While the power of the Bible can stand alone, without the help of historical or cultural context, understanding the background of the time can be immensely helpful and even open your eyes to things that you might not have noticed before.
That’s not to say you need those things though. I’m just saying looking into and understanding the thinking of the people at the time that specific portion of the Bible was written can really help you understand it deeper.
If we believe that the Bible is God’s Sovereign Word, we believe God had a hand in how it was translated. The Bible is all we have to go off of and it’s the number one way God communicates it to us.
Kefa, I’m interested to hear your thoughts on this. So are you basically saying that the Bible contains the Word of God, but the whole thing isn’t the Word of God?
(Don’t get me wrong, I’m not targeting you or anything. I’m just curious to know what you’re thinking about this.)
Write what should not be forgotten. — Isabel Allende
I don’t think @the_lost-journal was saying that the teachings of the saints are superior to the Bible. I think he meant that they were another source of instruction.
I shall be a vestibule of unhampered sanity.
My sister says to stop replying to this argument… but… I just want to say,
Context and History is all in the Bible. Reading other passages helps you understand other passages.
understanding the background of the time can be immensely helpful and even open your eyes to things that you might not have noticed before.
That is entirely true, you can get context for other passages , but there is no way that you can get context for this, from the Bible (yes this is a real verse from the Bible) “If a man’s (body part… I censored it) are crushed or his (body part) is cut off, he may not be admitted to the assembly of the Lord.” … There is no way in thousand years you would find what God means by that in the Bible! BUT, if you take history into context, then you can understand what God means! He is referring to back when men would take care of kings daughters, and wives. The king didn’t want the men to… so they agreed to do that… (yuck) They agreed to ruin their own bodies for money, you wouldn’t find the answer to that in the Bible!
The Bible is all we have to go off of and it’s the number one way God communicates it to us.
Yes and no. It is ONE of the ways God communicates to us, but you could argue God’s number one way to communicate to us is something else like prayer. But I do agree, I think the number one way he talks to us IS the Bible! But it is not all we have to go off of.
So are you basically saying that the Bible contains the Word of God, but the whole thing isn’t the Word of God?
No, not at all. I am saying that the Bible IS God’s word, and that you should 101% follow it. But you NEED context to read the Bible, there is A LOT of figurative language!
I don’t think the_lost-journal was saying that the teachings of the saints are superior to the Bible. I think he meant that they were another source of instruction.
Oh, pft no! The saints are shut mere people, guiding us to Jesus and God! There word is literally just the Bible, but explained with context to help us! I am sure there are some saints who would agree with you Esther! But there are probably other saints (That are probably newer saints) Who would agree with me!
(Hope I didn’t come off as rude! ☺️ Thanks for giving me something to do on my free!)
"We love the sinner, but hate the sin."-The other mother (Coraline)
Ok, interesting to hear your thoughts! I won’t discuss it any further because I’m not on here to argue, but thanks for taking the time to reply! :))
Write what should not be forgotten. — Isabel Allende
Ok, interesting to hear your thoughts! I won’t discuss it any further because I’m not on here to argue, but thanks for taking the time to reply!
I second that!!!! Thank you for answering my questions and giving me something to do lol!!!!
This lady thrives on the divine grace of Faith and the rich embrace of caffeine.
And no, you didn’t come off as rude!!! Talking to people with different beliefs and opinions actually helps me strengthen my own as well as understanding other points of view, so thank you so much!
And I’m sorry if I ever came off as rude hahaha
This lady thrives on the divine grace of Faith and the rich embrace of caffeine.
Haha, it is fine!
"We love the sinner, but hate the sin."-The other mother (Coraline)
you didnt btw
"We love the sinner, but hate the sin."-The other mother (Coraline)
YAYYYYY hahaha
thank you for this conversation!!!
This lady thrives on the divine grace of Faith and the rich embrace of caffeine.
ooh this is fun (I love a excuse to ramble about anything Christian related)
What is your denomination?
non denomination, honestly I don’t know enough about all the denominations but I say we really just a combination of different people who have all come from different denominations (I go to a pretty big church)
Did you grow up with this denomination? Are you still growing up with it?Or did you convert to it yourself?
I’ve gone to a non denomination (that was really Baptist) but mostly my family has been non denominational so yeah I don’t know if that will change or not
How many books are in your bible? And if you wish, what are those books?
So me and my family decided to stop reading our Bibles and just watch the chosen because it’s more entertaining
jk
66 books, Old and New Testament
(although I do love the chosen, I just don’t put it anyway near scripture)
How many people in your family are that denomination? (If any are a separate denomination, or religion)
uhhh I have a really big family but the ones I could name off the top of my head are
non religious or even atheists, and also a lot of baptists (my mom grew up Baptist but she’s not really any more since we lean more towards that spiritual gifts still exists and I put my hands up during some worship lol)
How many sacraments do you have? (If any…again, I am not sure if there is a denomination with zero sacraments)
baptism (we don’t think it’s necessary but we do believe that every Christian should do it if it’s possible for them), communion, dedications, and we have anointed people who are sick with oil (or the church leaders have)
Who is the head of your denomination? (i.e. The pope for Catholics.)
Our lead pastor
Who is your favorite hero from the Bible? (Can’t be Jesus. But he should be all of ours.)
I CANT CHOOSE JUST ONE!!!!!!
But I like Stephen, Peter, and PaulAnd finally, what is your favorite tradition from your religion? (It could be a family christian tradition, or a church tradition Example: Whenever my family hears a siren we pray a Hail Mary.)
our church puts in this really cool play for Easter and it’s like incredible!!
I have redeemed you; I have summoned you by name; you are mine.”
Isaiah 43:1Hey, thanks for replying!
So me and my family decided to stop reading our Bibles and just watch the chosen because it’s more entertaining
jk
My jaw dropped when I read that, then I saw the JK 😂😂😂 I was so scared. My honest reaction was “No, that is not good!” LOL
we lean more towards that spiritual gifts still exists and I put my hands up during some worship lol)
Same!
dedications
Hm, is that a sacrament? because I have never heard of it before!
our church puts in this really cool play for Easter and it’s like incredible!!
Oh, cool! My neighbor’s husband’s church (wow, that is a little long lol, and it is because they go to different churches…) put on a really cool easter play too! His church is also non-denominational!
(imagine if it was the same church we were talking about… I highly doubt it though 😂. I live in Maryland… you?)
"We love the sinner, but hate the sin."-The other mother (Coraline)
Okay so I’m going to be completely honest, I have no idea what a sacrament is (probably should have said that to begin with😅)
after looking it up no it probably wouldn’t be lol
ignore me
yeah I threw in the chosen thing just to give a mini heart attack to everyone reading 😂😂
I won’t say where I live but it’s not Maryland lol although that would be pretty neat
I have redeemed you; I have summoned you by name; you are mine.”
Isaiah 43:1Okay so I’m going to be completely honest, I have no idea what a sacrament is (probably should have said that to begin with😅)
Oh, it is fine lol, there are plenty of people who don’t know what a sacrament is!
yeah I threw in the chosen thing just to give a mini heart attack to everyone reading 😂😂
Trust me, it worked! Also I love using the phrase “mini heart attack!” I have never really heard anyone else say that!
I won’t say where I live but it’s not Maryland lol although that would be pretty neat!
It would’ve been lol!
"We love the sinner, but hate the sin."-The other mother (Coraline)
yeah I threw in the chosen thing just to give a mini heart attack to everyone reading 😂😂
I sure had one.
Terrible person.
😂😂 lololol. jkjk
No half-heartedness and no worldly fear must turn us aside from following the light unflinchingly.
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