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February 9, 2023 at 11:03 am #132365
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I rolled the log over and underneath was a tiny little stick and I was like, "That log had a child
February 9, 2023 at 11:04 am #132367Okay! Thanks for the tip! đ
I rolled the log over and underneath was a tiny little stick and I was like, "That log had a child
February 9, 2023 at 2:59 pm #132407Of course!!
For examples, I know that in the first book of the Wingfeather Saga, (On the Edge of the Dark Sea of Darkness), Peterson does some chapters from the villains POV. I believe he only does that in the first book tho.
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February 10, 2023 at 10:49 am #132515Oh yes, that’s a wonderful example! Thanks so much! *is very excited to write now*
I rolled the log over and underneath was a tiny little stick and I was like, "That log had a child
February 10, 2023 at 11:41 am #132517@euodia.vision.
Just donât show too many positive thoughts toward the protagonist while heâs in full-swing villain mode. That could seem a little creepy. And be careful of a victim-villain setup where heâs not really responsible for his own choices. As the others said, itâs all in the execution, but it may fall flat if his transformation comes across as âoh, Iâm only a villain because of these bad things that happened to me; Iâm really a good person deep downâŚâ Not realistic or biblical, so watch out for that, and make sure you plant seeds of his transformation so readers donât feel cheated. Thatâs my two centsâ worth. đ
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www.booksbyjayna.comFebruary 13, 2023 at 10:33 am #132713Ooh, that’s very helpful. Thanks so much!
Okay, question, so you mentioned that the whole ‘brainwashing’ thing isn’t that realistic, so would you stick with that even in a fantasy story? Where brainwashing could be very realistic? Or not?
I rolled the log over and underneath was a tiny little stick and I was like, "That log had a child
February 16, 2023 at 3:57 pm #133197Okay, question, so you mentioned that the whole âbrainwashingâ thing isnât that realistic, so would you stick with that even in a fantasy story? Where brainwashing could be very realistic? Or not?
@euodia.vision. I didnât realize you were talking specifically about brainwashing. Iâm not a fantasy reader, so I canât tell you what works in your world, but brainwashing is certainly a possibility. Here are some things to think about, though. Do readers know heâs being brainwashed? If they donât, and at the end thereâs this sudden reveal that heâs been brainwashed and was a good guy all alongâthat can rub readers the wrong way, since theyâve been rooting against him this whole time. Theyâll feel cheated in that case. If they do know heâs being brainwashedâthen is he really the villain? Or are the real villains the people brainwashing him? What happens to those villains? Iâm definitely not saying it canât happen or make a great story. Iâve read books where there were clear signs all along that the villain wasnât satisfied with his life or was searching for a way to change, and in that case, a transformation can be very fulfilling. What I meant by a âvictim-villain setupâ is the sort of villain who has always been a good person deep down (because thatâs really biblical, LOL) but turned to crime because somebody bullied him on the playground or whatever, so itâs really not his fault and itâs okay that he did what he did. Iâm not saying being bullied couldnât influence a character to make bad choices, but thatâs different from saying heâs not responsible for those choices. Now, brainwashingâthatâs a whole different thing. I donât know if Iâve helped here or made things more complicated for you. Sorry. :/
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