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  • #70520
    Ariel Ashira
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      Hey, Keepers!

      Okay, I have a question I have been thinking over for some time.  But I still am not sure.

      Is it alright for a christian singer who wants to glorify God to sing songs like “My Heart Will Go On”, which are not bad, but not christian either.  Or if I was to record an album, should I not sing them on there, but just sing them alone/at home?  I feel that whatever I do in my private like should be what I feel free doing in my public life, and that it should all honor my Creator.  Should I sing songs like this at all?

      Please let me know if you have any thoughts!  Thanks, friends!


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      #70522
      Sam Kowal
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        @ariel-ashira Hmm… really, I can’t say that I know the answer. Ultimately, I think you should do what you feel God is guiding you to do, since He knows what is the ultimate best.

        Personally, I think it’s okay, though. You can still do something for the glory of God in my opinion that isn’t related to religion/spiritual music, because other kinds of people in their work/activities still do things for God that don’t necessarily have a Christian message. For example, a Christian architect might do his or her work for God, even if that work doesn’t have an explicit Christian message. And you can of course record both kinds of songs.

        As far as an album, you could certainly record that, although there’s probably a lot of copyrights on songs like My Heart Will Go On. If you were going to sell 😉

         

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        #70523
        Ariel Ashira
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          Thank you, @sam-kowal !  I think you have a good point!  Still, how would it glorify God to sing songs like that?  Wouldn’t it just praise yourself?

          I don’t know.

          And yeah, your right about copyright jazz.  I was just useing that as an example. 🙂

          "In a mask, was he?"

          #70526
          Sam Kowal
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            @ariel-ashira Maybe it doesn’t, but I think if you’re singing some popular songs that people like, and others that are directly Christian, you might get people who would normally not listen to Christian songs to move on to those, from your other songs. That’s just my ideas though 😉

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            #70527
            Ariel Ashira
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              @sam-kowal Thats an interesting consideration.  Do you think that could influence or impact those people toward God, you mean?

              Wonder what @rochellaine would think?  I value everyone’s opinion highly, especially when it is backed up with the Bible.

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              #70528
              Rochellaine
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                @ariel-ashira I like what @sam-kowal said about how a person can do his work for God in any walk in life.  That said, of course I also believe there is such a thing as bad music, and bad lyrics, which a Christian shouldn’t sing.  I know some people believe you should only sing hymns, some believe you should only sing Psalms, some believe you can sing anything as long as it doesn’t directly contradict God’s Word.  It’s hard to know exactly where to draw the line, and different things could be sins for different people, as it says in Romans 14. 🙂

                But I’ll give you the reasons I give myself for what kinds of music I sing:

                In the Bible, there are five different “genres” of music listed as sung by God’s people. (That I have found in my own studies. 😉 )

                1. Songs sung during corporate worship, which would include Psalms and hymns.
                2. Songs sung to praise God for things He has done, outside of corporate worship, such as the song Miriam sang after the Egyptians were thrown into the bottom of the Red Sea.
                3. Songs which are sung to commemorate historical events, again, such as the one sung by Miriam, or Psalm 137 which speaks of how they don’t like singing their songs in a strange land.
                4. Songs about popular events and people which do not necessarily mention God at all, such as when the women of Israel made Saul jealous by singing about how “Saul has slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands.” 🙂  Those I count as similar to “popular music” but I mean popular music in a different form than most people think of it as, since most popular music written now is very bad!  I listen almost exclusively to oldies in this genre, and I count folk music here, too.
                5. Love songs, for which we have the Song of Solomon as an example.

                So…anyway, those are the reasons I give myself for the types of songs I sing.  I believe those were the kinds of songs God’s people sang in the Bible, and therefore it is fine for me to sing them.  I do believe that we should only sing certain kinds of music and songs during corporate worship, but outside of corporate worship I will sing all those different genres listed above.

                I hope this little research I’ve done for myself will be able to help you in some way! If anything I said here doesn’t make sense or needs to be explained more fully, please just ask! 😀

                (Disclaimer: I am only speaking about lyrics here.  I have other views on which types of music are good to listen to and which should be avoided, but that is much too long a discussion to have here, so I wouldn’t bring it up except for my own conscience.)

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                #70530
                Ariel Ashira
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                  @rochellaine Wow.  Those are some wise conclusions on some biblical study.  Thank you for sharing with me!  I will keep all these in mind, and maybe do some further search on my own on this subject.

                  I am talking about lyrics, not the way the music is played.  I have my own definite convictions on how music should be played. 🙂

                  Thank you so much!

                  "In a mask, was he?"

                  #70537
                  SeekJustice
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                    @ariel-ashira

                    I personally don’t see a problem with it, but I will say that I see a destinction between non-Christian music and Popular music. I don’t listen to pop music because I don’t see it as uplifting, encouraging, God-honouring or entertaining, but I do listen to a lot of non-Christian music, such as musicals, because even when they aren’t explicitly mentioning God they often champion morals and Godly principals (not ALL musicals of course, just the ones I listen to).

                    So I think it depends on the songs you want to sing and I’d talk to your parents and/or someone at your church and ask their opinion. And of course pray about it!

                    INFP Queen of the Kingdom commander of an army of origami cranes and a sabre from Babylon.

                    #70538
                    Ariel Ashira
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                      @seekjustice Thank you!  I agree!

                       

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                      #70613
                      Rochellaine
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                        @ariel-ashira I also agree with what @seekjustice said about popular music.  The only reason I mentioned popular music in my list was because I couldn’t think of a good name for the other genre, which would probably best be just called “Oldies.” 🙂  There may be some popular music that is good, but it is very hard to find, and I certainly wouldn’t recommend listening to loads of bad music in an attempt to find some good. 😛  I don’t listen to it either.

                        I listen to the oldies for the same reason SeekJustice listens to musicals: they usually have the good moral values which we don’t really get in popular music anymore.

                        "Sylvester - Sylvester!"

                        #70614
                        Ariel Ashira
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                          @rochellaine Completley!  Most all my CDs are from musicals and S&S because its the best music I can find.

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                          #70615
                          Rochellaine
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                            Oh my goodness!  I just realized… @seekjustice Have I ever recommended Sight and Sound Theatres to you?  If I haven’t I really can’t believe myself.


                            @ariel-ashira
                            Thanks for reminding me!  Sight and Sound is great!  You live in Missouri, right?  That means you’re near the Branson theater.  We’ve already talked about this, haven’t we?  On your introduction topic, maybe. 🙂

                            "Sylvester - Sylvester!"

                            #70616
                            Ariel Ashira
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                              @rochellaine I am crazy about S&S!  Yeah, we talked about this before!  I have four or five of thier soundtracks.  Have you guys seen Jesus???  I hope we can see Samson, but since we are moving I don’t know if we will.  Our grandparents have taken us to see Moses and Th Miracle of Christmas.  Both were amazing!!!

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                              #70618
                              Rochellaine
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                                @ariel-ashira We haven’t seen Jesus yet, but I’m pretty sure we have tickets to go sometime this year.  I’m sure it’ll be amazing.  We made the intentional decision not to see Samson, because the whole story is basically about him sinning constantly with Delilah and a whole bunch of other things, so we didn’t think it was something we’d like to see.  We do have the soundtrack though. 😉

                                I’ve seen The Miracle of Christmas several times, since I remember going when I was a little girl, and then we watched it a few more times as I grew up.  Not every year; just sometimes.  When I was little my favorite part was when Michael came and fought with Satan over the roof of the stable, and then Satan rolled and flipped away.  It was so cool!

                                The other ones I remember seeing are Ruth, Moses, Joseph, Psalms of David(in the old Living Waters theater, which they don’t use anymore), Noah, Jonah, and In the Beginning.  So yeah, except for Samson, we’ve been going to basically every show for the last ten years or so. 😀  Do you have any of the DVDs? (We don’t, but SeekJustice would have to get the DVDs if she was going to watch them, since she lives in Australia, so I’m wondering how good they are.)

                                I hope you get to see Samson before you move!  Then you can tell me if you liked it.  Of course, it’ll be great, since their shows are always amazing!

                                "Sylvester - Sylvester!"

                                #70619
                                Ariel Ashira
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                                  @rochellaine I love the fight between Michael and Satan!  I also like the part when Mary pushes Zachariah off the porch on accident! 🙂

                                  I have the Jonah DVD.  The quality of the movie itself is very good, and gives you a good idea of how grand the place is.  Jonah is probably thier most comical show, although it has a lot of underlying message and meaning.  Its really good!  Of course, they all are.

                                  I have watched like every video I can find on Youtube of thiers.

                                  "In a mask, was he?"

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