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@seekjustice

Haha that’s good to know.

Unfortunately, the other historical adventure/fantasy story idea I currently have has to do with upper class characters as well. But I have another historical story idea that is sort of like a mystery/detective story. I’m thinking that it will be about a procurator who is charged with the investigation and…[Read more]

@seekjustice

I’ve just got to pop back in here and say it’s hilarious that you have Joe Bloggs in Australia.  In America we have John Does. 😛

(At least I assume that’s what you meant by Joe Blogg.)

I will definitely answer your questions about his-fics in our next conversation. 🙂  Goodnight!

@rochellaine

Goodnight!

@seekjustice

Haha but would you be interested in reading my WIP anyway? My MC hits pretty much every point you’ve made. She’s noble, rich, whiny and uh… wishes that she is in a romance novel instead of the story that I’m writing. But she won’t remain noble and rich for long 😉

@valtmy Yes, it’s funny – and kinda sad – how wrong modern perception of history is.  There are so many things the history books just don’t tell you, and so many things they tell you that are just fabricated because “winners write the history books.” 😉

Anyway, I’ve got to go now.  Goodnight!

@seekjustice Rochellaine’s next mission: Think of h…[Read more]

@rochellaine

Oh. I suppose there’s Southern Belles in other time periods which I probably never noticed.

Ah, that’s true. European serfdom completely slipped my mind for a moment. Funny how much the Atlantic slave trade has shaped the common perception of slavery even though it happened through a much shorter period in history, right?

@seekjustice

Given the historical genre’s obsession with the upper class, I doubt you can find many historical fictions that you would like.

@seekjustice There are some GREAT modern his-fics, and there are some HORRIBLE modern his-fics. 😛

@valtmy Well, I can just say I’ve seen the type all over the place, in 1870s heroines, in 1910s heroines, 1930s heroines…you can see where this is going. 😉

Well, I don’t really see why that makes her more similar to the Southern Belle than to…[Read more]

@rochellaine

Oh. The main criticism I’ve heard against Southern Belle books have a lot to do with racism and slavery etc. so I’ve always associated Southern Belles with the Antebellum South. Never really heard of Southern Belles outside that time period.

Hmm now that I think about it, my MC is sort of an East Asian ‘Southern Belle’ because…[Read more]

@valtmy My reply to @seekjustice above covers some of what you’re talking about.

I agree that they’re a subset of the noblewoman/lady stereotype.

I don’t think they come from a specific time period, though.  They originated in the pre-Civil War era, but they had existed before then, in women like Martha Washington and Martha Jefferson, and they…[Read more]

@seekjustice I read Anne Frank’s diary too, and I both liked it and hated it. 😛  I don’t know, I feel sorry for her because while she was not perfect by any means, I think perhaps if her family hadn’t been so messed up and her life hadn’t been so messed up, she might not have been so messed up.

But Agnes Lee’s diary is completely different!  S…[Read more]

@rochellaine

Haha all right then.

I don’t think I know a lot of Southern Belle characters. I’ve watched the film for Gone with the Wind once and that’s about it. I didn’t like Scarlett, of course, but it was obvious that Scarlett wasn’t supposed to be looked up to as a role model or anything like that so I was fine with it.

I actually think of…[Read more]

@valtmy Hi!  You’re still here. 😀

Yes, I’ve figured out a plan. Not going to reveal it right now, though. 😉  My plotting and planning has been going great, but the writing itself is still going slowly. 😛  Hopefully I’ll have the next section done soon, though.

Do you have any examples of Southern Belles that you like or dislike?

@seekjustice I see.  Well…two true-life examples I can think of are Martha Washington and Agnes Lee.  Martha Washington would probably not be defined as a “Southern belle” since she was Revolutionary era, and the idea of Southern belles started around the time of the Civil War, but she was from the South, and beautiful, and sweet, so I’m c…[Read more]

@dekreel

Bye!

@rochellaine

Haha, yes, it’s obvious. By the way have you figured out what you want to do with that plot point?

@seekjustice

The Southern Belle character type suffers a lot of historical baggage. I suppose it has to do with the period in which Southern Belle books were written.

@seekjustice I’m still here. 🙂

What Southern belle characters have you read?  Elsie Dinsmore? 😛

@valtmy Yishay’s song… 😛  Well, it’s not the whole song.  I think his feelings are similar to the ending of “Soliloquy” from Carousel where the lyrics are “She’s gotta be sheltered and fed and dressed in the best that money can buy…I’ll go out and make it(money) or steal it or take it or die!”

I feel like I’m giving something away, but yo…[Read more]

@rochellaine  Well, I’m not too fond of Scarlett, but overall, it’s a very well-written, profound book. I love how the author pays attention to detail. The society, the world and the emotions feel so real, it’s nearly palpable. Overall I give it a 6 out of 10.

I need to get off. I might be back later tonight. See you guys later!

@dekreel

Yes, I am on SE under the same username but I do not go there very often. I hardly have time to come here to KP nowadays, much less SE. 🙁

@rochellaine

Hey, we didn’t manage to continue our conversation yesterday. So what is Yishay’s song anyway?

@dekreel Hm, that’s interesting.  To be honest, I actually despise Gone with the Wind. 😛  What do you like about it?

I dunno. *ponders* I thought she was.

@valtmy Hello!  You want to answer the question?  Are you on SE or not? 😉

@rochellaine  That’s a great way of putting it. . .

My writing is. . . okay. . . I’m considering writing a steampunk novel sometime in the future. Maybe a steampunk retelling of Gone with the Wind. That would be cool.

I’m not on Story Embers as often as I should, so I can’t give a clear answer. What I do know is that it’s thriving.

Wait,…[Read more]