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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Amen!
Everybody.There are a lot of ideas on this topic, some of which may or may not be correct. I’m glad that we can all work together, even with our minorly opposing viewpoints, and try to find a solution for all this. It’s so refreshing that even though a lot of us disagree, we can still carry on a polite conversation.
And I agree that the…[Read more]
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Daeus replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
It’s not “treat your neighbor as yourself”. It’s “love you neighbor as yourself”
Love is tough.
Perfect love requires holiness.
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Daeus replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Resolved: It is wrong to torture somebody just because you want information.
Resolved: The end does not justify the means – ever.
Resolved: Personal convictions (i.e. That one side of a war is in the right) is not a crime. Only immoral action is a crime.
Resolved: Not doing can be as bad as doing.
Conclusion: The only time it might (and I…[Read more]
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Yes, it’s very grey in some areas isn’t it?
That’s a good quote, by the way.In regards to the ‘treating your neighbor as yourself’, what if your neighbor is a criminal? Obviously you should turn him in— obviously you should see that he comes to justice, even if that’s not what you would want someone else to do to you. How does that qualify as…[Read more]
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
That makes sense. I agree. I can’t find any flaws in the logic… that may just be me though.
@Ezra-Wilkinson? Logic Master? We need you.
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Daeus replied to the topic Scene Critique -Transition in the forum Novel Critique Requests 10 years, 10 months ago
For the brackets section, as the reader, I want to know why Mairi is acting out of character. The reason must be at least hinted at.
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Daeus replied to the topic Bad heroes, messed up protagonists, and character arcs in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
@kate-flournoy That makes it even better. Yes, much better, and I think his best friend should employ some creative magic tricks to stop him – though it won’t be good enough.
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic You know you are a writer when… in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Yes. Do the elf thing.
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Yeah, that tends to happen around here. 😀
You raise good points, @howlingwolf. But the question here is not whether or not torture can be faulty, but is it even an acceptable practice, whatever it’s faults.
I certainly grant you there are problems with the system. 😛
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic Greetings! in the forum Start HERE 10 years, 10 months ago
That’s funny. I seem to remember you telling us that you were 16,000. Something about healthy living, wasn’t it? 😉
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Hey, you raise some good points there, Ezra.
Let’s try this then. Suppose we take someone who is by definition a wrongdoer— a terrorist, for instance, or some general who has committed mass atrocities— unquestionably outside the bounds of what is acceptable in war. Someone like Hitler.
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic Bad heroes, messed up protagonists, and character arcs in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
That made me laugh too, Amanda. 😀
Okay Daeus, now that we’ve got the premise, let’s flesh it out.
Honestly, I forgot about his best friend.
We could say he ends up fighting against Walter when Walter becomes ruthless… that could illustrate how bitter Walter has become. To flesh that out further, we could also say that the best friend has a…[Read more] -
Kate Flournoy replied to the topic Greetings! in the forum Start HERE 10 years, 10 months ago
Oh goodness, Ezra. Please. 😛
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
@Ezra-Wilkinson— the difference between torture and punishment is this. If you commit a crime, you are dealt some painful consequence of that crime to teach you not to commit that crime again. Once you have received that punishment and paid, presumably, for your wrongdoing, you are free to go and need not face any consequence again unless you…[Read more]
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Daeus replied to the topic Bad heroes, messed up protagonists, and character arcs in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Nooo, not Walter! Oh, well Walter, sometimes sad things happen.
The two things I’m wondering is why the terrorists killed his family (and if they are still out to kill him) and how his best friend fits into all this?
The next thing we need to figure out is some unusual ways to make bad heroes lovable. We know we can make them snarky brilliant…[Read more]
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Daeus replied to the topic When Good Guys Act Like Villains in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Inflicting severe pain to make someone do or say something is the def. We’re not talking about punishments.
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Daeus replied to the topic You know you are a writer when… in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Do the elf thing.
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Kate Flournoy replied to the topic Bad heroes, messed up protagonists, and character arcs in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Hm… I like that. I like that. I really do. Let’s see… let’s see where I can take this…
Oh boy, I’m too tired to avoid cliches tonight.
Let’s say Walter was out on one of his long walks, and he comes back to find his home burned by terrorists and his family all presumably dead. Sufficiently tragic?
He’s not exactly the type to go off…[Read more]
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Daeus replied to the topic Bad heroes, messed up protagonists, and character arcs in the forum General Writing Discussions 10 years, 10 months ago
Oh, this …. this will be fun.
I’m so sorry Walter. I’m really really sorry.
Walter was is 19. Ever since he was 0 he has lived in south Africa. He is semi-social, not a ton of friends, but mostly pretty good ones. He love animals and is constantly thinking about how to put all of Africa’s amazing and bizarre animals to good use. He also loves…[Read more]
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Daeus replied to the topic Greetings! in the forum Start HERE 10 years, 10 months ago
How do ya do little brown dog? (well I assume)
It’s great to have you here. We’re looking forward to what you have to contribute and eager for your opinions, jokes, and writing enthusiasm.
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