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@joy-caroline
Yay!! Thank you, I hope is was encouraging at least.
Speaking of miracles, I’ve been thinking. Why do we need magic in our books if we have a powerful God? I have nothing against using magic as an allegory of His power, but I realized that just because I don’t have magic in my books doesn’t mean I can’t have unexplainable things! Or in other words, I can have miracles in my fantasy and since I have God in them it won’t be weird. In fact, it might be gloriously impactful.
What are y’all’s thoughts on this?
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True! I think you’re definitely right.
I don’t think every fantasy novel must have magic. In fact, I feel it’s a stereotype to expect that the fantasy genre always includes magic. There are some great fantasy books out there with no magic system. I guess the cool thing about fantasy is that you can design whatever you want for your world (as long as it makes sense within the parameters you’ve set up), and since it’s your world, no one can contend with it. 😀
@joy-caroline
Sorry I took a while to respond. Anyway, yay! I don’t know exactly how I’ll work it, but it’ll definitely be something like that. Yes, fantasy is so open for creativity: that’s probably why I’ve ended up in that genre.
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Your reason for writing fantasy is the same reason I don’t write it. XD I have a lot of respect for those of you who can concoct entire worlds from your own imagination; that’s really tough to do and not something I’m personally talented in.
@joy-caroline
Oh no! XD
So far I’ve loved shaping a little mirror of reality, so I hope as I get more in-depth it won’t stage a mutiny or petrify into something else. The one I’m the most concerned over is my allegorical series. It’s just not an anything-goes-here kind of situation when it’s a figure of Christianity and salvation. (Eeek!)
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Ooh, I LOVE allegorical fantasy! What’s yours about (if you don’t mind sharing, of course)?
By the way, I love your signature. It’s short, snappy, and meaningful.
@joy-caroline
Thank you! (It’s a phrase deeply precious to me.)
Yours is beautiful too. I love a good quote!
As for my allegorical WIP, not only would I like to share it, but I need to hash it out with someone other than my sister. (Not that that is her fault, she’s a wonderful person to work stuff over with, and she’s welcome to comment on it, but I think I’ll talk her ear off soon if something isn’t done. 😉 )
So the idea behind it is that if our testimonies are our greatest tool for outreach/encouragement, how would one go about placing them in allegory?
For the sake of clarity, here’s a quick rundown:
The kingdom was once a whole, ruled be the King of Life. Then Rebellion broke lose in the Higher Places, and the kingdom split. The ___ (Satan) brought the Rebellion into the Lower Lands, creating a greater division till the citizens were separated from the King just like ____. But seperation from the King of Life means ultimate death, and causing humanity to be flawed, marred so that it could no longer see the Higher Places. When fellowship with Him died, it left a hole in humanity that ____ promised to fill. The Rebellion also enslaved the people to ____, making them serfs till they paid with their life.
The King knew this would happen, and he also knew the only way to redeem His lost people was to pay with pure, unshackled blood. However, no person was free anymore, all had fallen into serfdom, do out of his great love for them, he came to the Lower Lands as a son among those who he had created.
They killed him, He who had shown them the Way of Freedom, was executed as a traitor.
However, He was the King of Life. In his reserection he broke the chains that bound His people, making a way for them to follow him into Freedom and Life.
He had payed the ransom, made atonement, broken the chains of death, and when he left the Lower Places, he gave His Life to those who had received redemption. Essencially His Power and Presence to guide them and open the way to the High Place to wait for when all Rebellion was expulsed and the Kingdom was made whole.
Knight pastors/evangelists/apostles
Serfs= people in bondage under sin (mostly refers to the obvious ones, but also to some who don’t even realize they are serfs)
King’s Warrior= prayer warrior
King’s Servant= minister/prophet
So it’s still a bit rough, but that’s the general idea. 😉 Many of the names will probably change, and the allegory needs some smoothing. I want to use only Bible for it, and not traditions, if that makes since.
The story is the testimonies of four different people.
Sir William: (comes out of false doctrine) raised to be a knight but never learning the whole truth. The order of kinghts he belongs to really doesn’t know the king, and can’t effectively help free anyone – even themselves. Skip a lot of details, and he becomes a true Knight of the King, spurned by his family but strong in his Lord.
Alwin(Name might change): (saved out of obviously sinful life his parents brought him into) born a serf, he is led to Freedom by a persistent knight who won’t give up on him. When fully freed by the King, he works zealously to lead other slaves to Hope. Eventually killed by knights under ___ influence.
Winifred: (preacher’s kid, raised in truth) the daughter of a knight, she has known the King from an early age. As the has gotten older, she is under attack, her every belief questioned, dream shaken, value sunken. By clinging to her Master she is saved, and in chasing after His will she finds her fulfillment. During her personal battle, Alwin actually comes between her and destruction (in intersesery prayer). This is where their stories cross and eventually become entangled when they get married. I don’t consider this story a romance, it’s just a mix of testimonies, and this is an important plot point.
Aethelthryth: (Missionary’s kid, also child who lost her father) daughter of Alwin and Winifrith. I haven’t been able to work out much for her, since a lot of her stuff somehow got transferred to her mother.
WELL. That’s a LONG post, and probably more than was needed. The story is just a bit complicated. Sorry. 😉
I did create a board for allegorical discussion but didn’t know how to do anything with it. I can move talking about this there, if it’ll be clogging up here.
You have listened to fears, child. Come, let me breathe on you... Are you brave again? -Aslan
And yes, that was MUCH more than needed. I got a bit carried away, I’m afraid.
My sincere apologies.
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I am so sorry it took me so long to get over here! I had finals this week and hardly had a second to breathe, let alone check up on the forum. It’s over now though, and I’m looking forward to some good #writertalk.
The Rebellion also enslaved the people to ____, making them serfs till they paid with their life.
This is a really good plot point.
Serfs= people in bondage under sin (mostly refers to the obvious ones, but also to some who don’t even realize they are serfs)
I also love the extra detail you’ve added by making some people not even realize they are serfs. That’s pretty cool! (Not to mention it’s a great allusion to how many people don’t even realize they are slaves to sin until they hear about the freedom found in Jesus.)
May I mention that Sir William sounds like a boss?
During her personal battle, Alwin actually comes between her and destruction (in intersesery prayer). This is where their stories cross and eventually become entangled when they get married. I don’t consider this story a romance, it’s just a mix of testimonies, and this is an important plot point.
Interesting! I’d like to hear more about this plot point in particular, if you can do so without spoiling too much of the story. 😉
WELL. That’s a LONG post, and probably more than was needed. The story is just a bit complicated.
Girl, DO NOT apologize! I love hearing about other people’s stories, and maybe we can hash out our stories together! That would be fun. Mine isn’t an allegory, it’s directly Biblical fiction, but it’s always fun to discuss plot points and characters. Besides that, I really do want to hear more about your allegorical fantasy because I freaking love allegories.
I did create a board for allegorical discussion but didn’t know how to do anything with it. I can move talking about this there, if it’ll be clogging up here.
Hmm, that sounds like a really good board idea! We can move the discussion up there if you’d rather – besides, this is an allegorical discussion so it’d be perfect there. 😉
So are all four of your characters getting POVs in this novel? And is it a novel or a series? (‘Cause it sounds like you could very well have more than enough story to make it into a series.)
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