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  • #87930
    Kathleen
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      What was the most difficult scene for you to write and why?

      I’m not sure if this scene was THE hardest I’ve ever written, but it was definitely a challenge. The scene was a rooftop fight scene that I wrote at the beginning of this year. It was the first time I’d written a fight scene on a rooftop (or any rooftop scene, for that matter) and their were five characters involved which made it a bit more difficult as well.

      I started writing the scene with the intention of the main character surviving the fight, but errmmm… somehow he ended up losing. The villains were a bit too overpowered, I guess. I had to scrap the whole scene to start again but with slightly less over-powered villains. XD

      So what was one of the most difficult scenes you’ve ever written?

      #87935
      Linyang Zhang
      @devastate-lasting
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        @kathleenramm Honestly, every scene I write is difficult once it starts to lag. So then I usually toss in a new character or yet another fight scene, or most of the time, both. But in general, uh, romantic scenes are probably the biggest struggle for me. Which is probably why there has been an extreme lack of romance in everything that I’ve written so far. Occasionally I’m in the mood for writing a kissing scene, I guess, but that mood is usually broken as soon as my sister shows me a meme.

        So, long story short, everything is hard.

        Lately, it's been on my brain
        Would you mind letting me know
        If hours don't turn into days

        #87938
        GodlyFantasy12
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          @kathleenramm

          Im just gonna use what I’m working on rn…and since I’m still in the first few chapters, probably the scenes in chapter 4.

          I’m honestly struggling to write scenes with my MC’s family, because there are 4 members and sometimes I get overloaded with too many ppl cuz I don’t want to just throw in conversation just so they can be in it, but I also don’t feel like taking the time to write well interactions…..🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

          Hoping to smooth those things out tho in editing.

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          #87953
          SeekJustice
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            @kathleenramm

            That’s quite hard for me to answer! Death scenes are hard for me to write emotionally speaking, especially as someone who has had two very beloved family members die traumatically. It’s just hard for me to treat them as blase as I used to when I was a younger writer and I struggle with them quite a lot.

            More mentally though, stupid fight scenes. My word, I hate having to write fight scenes! I just can’t make them not sound cheesy or cringey. They are my mortal enemy!

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            #87955
            Anonymous
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              @kathleenramm Ooh… Fight scenes are controversial for me. Some are super easy to write…others, not so much. I think the hardest scene for me (this year, with my WIP) was more a group of scenes that spanned a couple chapters.

              My POV character was starting to fall apart…and I started to hate him…and then I had to intentionally kill my character (first time that wasn’t a villain)…and I got the emotion all wrong…and the action was so cheesy…and my guy did not sound like a guy…and now that I’m writing this I’m starting to despair over that whole thing all over again…

              Yeah, it was a bad group of scenes.

              As for just one scene, like the worst one ever, um…all of them? I hate transition scenes, like where the character is moving from one place to another and you don’t want to change to a separate scene, because it’s a two minute walk but the whole aura changes so it’s like yeah scene break but no scene break because why would i do that and i can just say she walked over there but that’s so boring and doesn’t fit the way i write everything else and all my transition scenes are in this one person’s pov and she’s so kind to me because they end up turning out fine in the end. You know?


              @devastate-lasting
              Girl, I LOVE kiss scenes. I mean, I’ve never been kissed, so I don’t know why I love them or how I even write them (I think they’re convincing), but nailing the emotion? Ugh, that is SO difficult. I’m literally in the middle of one right now, and I’m trying to find that balance between the character’s thoughts and actions, and everything would be perfect if I were writing a screenplay. Which I am not. Obviously. But it’s fun. Keaton’s the sweetest hero I’ve written so far–and Elliot is pretty sweet. But then there’s Kit… Y’know what? They’re all sweet guys. 😉

              #87956
              Kathleen
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                @devastate-lasting

                Is it bad that I’ve never written romance in any form before? I love creating deep, meaningful, and complicated relationships, but never romance. Probably because I don’t read romance often, and I’m only seventeen so romance isn’t something I think about, like, ever. XD

                But I can see how writing romance would be difficult. Trying to make it feel natural, but not cliche, while also making the readers feel the connection between characters.


                @godlyfantasy12

                I too sometimes get paranoid about making conversations somewhat equal when writing scenes with lots of characters. I’m like, “wait, when was the last time that character spoke? They should probably say something now.” XD But then I also remember that some characters are just going do a whole lot more talking than other characters. Like I probably only take up about 1% of the talking in most conversations that isn’t with my siblings.


                @seekjustice

                Yes, death scenes can be so emotionally draining. Especially if you’re putting yourself in the character’s headspace and really feeling what they are feeling. Death scenes will never, and probably shouldn’t ever be something that will get easier for me to write.

                @gracie-j

                I didn’t even think about transition scenes, but now that you mention it, well… yep. That brings up a whole lot of memories of writing, deleting, and overthinking cycles going on repeat for far too long. XD

                 

                #87957
                Anonymous
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                  @kathleenramm (Hate to barge in on your convo with Linyang…but, girl, I’m fifteen and Lord knows I ain’t got no romance goin’ on in my life. 😆 But a good romance novel??? Now that’s something else. Whether it’s the soft, sweet romances of Jane Austen or a YA rom-com, once you find a love story that just clicks, there’s no going back. I used to be into just fantasy and mystery, but then I discovered Christian medieval romances at ten or eleven, and my life was radically changed. 😉 The parallel between Jesus and His bride, for me, is what’s the most amazing. Everything I write has a touch of romance…even when I’ve tried to avoid it. 😉

                  I think what’s the most difficult in writing romances in keeping the balance. Once you have the romantic plot–or even subplot–the entire book is tipped off-kilter. The emotions are all over the place, the different characters and subplots are going crazy, and it’s so tough to keep everything under control–and you have to, because without the realistic emotions and the other things (from the everyday events to the subgenres incorporated), the romance is so bland and lifeless.

                  Anyway…sorry about that. 😉

                  I know! Transition scenes are the most neglected, unnoticed by readers, and underrated (in terms of difficulty) scenes in existence. You don’t realize how draining they are to write (and rewrite five dozen times) until you’re writing one. It’s even more difficult when you’re transitioning into the climax or that moment of heart-stopping suspense and you’re trying to ease in slowly…yeah, not cool.

                  #87958
                  GodlyFantasy12
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                    @kathleenramm

                    Yea I struggle with scenes that have multiple characters. Not even just with dialogue but overall, I struggle with not just randomly popping in things for them to do to remind u they’re there, but I also usually don’t feel like taking the time to write the scenes lol. Again, hopefully I’ll smooth it out in editing.

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                    #87959
                    ella
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                      @kathleenramm

                      I struggle with everything everyone else has mentioned, but I always have the hardest time trying to make friendly banter between two characters.  Since I write in a different setting than real life, I can’t use the banter between me and my friends as inspiration.  (It’s also mostly cheesy stuff anyways. 🙂 ) So yeah, I’ll be working on that. 😉

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                      #87965
                      Kathleen
                      @kathleenramm
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                        @nova21

                        I think what you mentioned right there is the epitome of writing. Most likely all writers at one point or another write about situations we have no experience ever doing but write about it as if we did it just that morning. XD And it’s totally prevalent when writing banter between two characters wholly different from you. Their conversation would go totally different than all the other conversations you’ve experienced personally. I guess that’s why observation is so key to being a writer.

                        #87966
                        ella
                        @nova21
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                          @kathleenramm

                          Definitely.  On a slightly different note, I hate it when people write comic relief characters who are so try-hard!! 😄 I almost put the book down (e.g. Uriah in the Divergent series–I liked him in the first book, but in the last two, he was super cringy)  Anyways, it’s interesting to see how so many writers (most of the time) share the same struggles in scene-writing.  Experience, lol!!! 😃

                          what we do in life echoes in eternity
                          -gladiator, 2000

                          #87987
                          Kathleen
                          @kathleenramm
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                            @nova21

                            Oof, yes. XD I know those characters far too well.  Have you ever read a book with a character that you had a sneaking suspicion was the author’s favorite character? I feel like the try-hard comic relief characters are often those characters, but since the author likes the character so much they’re oblivious to it. XD Not sure if you’ve come across this or not, but it’s something that I’ve noticed after reading a bunch and writing stories of my own.

                            #87988
                            ella
                            @nova21
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                              @kathleenramm

                              Yeah, I know what you mean.  That’s an interesting thought–I’ve never really paid attention to authors’ favoritism.  I’ll have to think about it.  I feel like I’ve read that kinda thing before though, and I’ve definitely written it!! 😂

                              what we do in life echoes in eternity
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