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February 23, 2023 at 11:31 am #134365
@freedomwriter76
AHHHH FIN!!! Aww he’s sooo sweet!! AHH I love him so much!!
(And he’s even better looking then I envisioned 😂)
#HugRikerSquad
February 23, 2023 at 11:33 am #134367February 23, 2023 at 11:35 am #134368Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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AHHHH FIN!!! Aww he’s sooo sweet!! AHH I love him so much!!
AHHHHH, I KNOWWWW!!!! He’s just too lovable!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
(And he’s even better looking then I envisioned 😂)
Hehe…😂😂😂
I’ve gone through multiple pictures for him because I couldn’t seem to pick one, but I’m satisfied with this one…😜
February 23, 2023 at 11:39 am #134370@freedomwriter76
❤️❤️❤️❤️ Yes he is!!!
Hehe…😂😂😂
I’ve gone through multiple pictures for him because I couldn’t seem to pick one, but I’m satisfied with this one…😜
XD Oh yeah…XD it looks good…XD
#HugRikerSquad
February 23, 2023 at 11:47 am #134372Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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❤️❤️❤️❤️ Yes he is!!!
Why must I keep making it harder on myself to do what I must to him??? 😭😭😭
XD Oh yeah…XD it looks good…XD
Heheheeee….😂😂😂
February 23, 2023 at 1:54 pm #134382Yeah, what’s interesting about that is that it does correlate to the particular model we’re doing. It could be rationalized, but I’m still not sure, it still feels a little too much like the second to me, because it could be rationalized using the second model. Maybe I should be more specific, idk…
I think I see what you’re going for. 🤔
If I think of anything I’ll let you know. 👍 🙂
Write what should not be forgotten. — Isabel Allende
February 23, 2023 at 1:59 pm #134383@freedomwriter76
That moodboard looks AMAZING!!!
He sounds like a character I would really love. 😉
What WIP of yours is he in?
Write what should not be forgotten. — Isabel Allende
February 23, 2023 at 2:42 pm #134390Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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@esther-c.Thanks so much!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Heh…heh…yeah…just…
don’t get too attached. 🤐🤐🤐He’s in multiple WIPs, actually! He’s in the book with Leon/Riker, the book with The Boys (Leo, Joshua, Jakob, Reuben, and Wolfgang) and in the book with Erich/Esther and possibly even in my book with Ezra! 😂
He’s MOSTLY in the book with Leon/Riker tho because he becomes Riker’s mentor. 🙂
Oh, and he may have his own book that’s kind of a prequel-type story. 😉
And I saw how you said you wanted to hear more about him, so…I’m about to go on a rant about Fin!!! 😂😂😂😂 (Müller is his last name🥰)
@lightoverdarkness6, in case you wanna hear all about Fin and his story too…❤️❤️❤️So, he’s Riker’s commanding officer that becomes his mentor, a man who is a strong Christian, and is (secretly) helping Jews and other innocent people escape the Camp, and even stopping some of them from getting put INTO the camp. He’s kind, sweet, humorous at times, and has a heart to help people. His faith in God is stronger than many, and because of life experiences, his trust is completely in the God who saved him. But things haven’t always been that way, no…far from it.
He grew up in a family with 7 kids, growing up as the oldest, and hard times hit fast. When Fin was only ten and his mother was pregnant with the family’s final child, his father died in the First World War, leaving the family without a provider, and within a year or two, Fin, because his mother had health issues, dropped out of school and began working in a factory to provide for his mother and 6 younger siblings. (as you could well guess, he’s a very responsible man.)
Time went on, and as they got older, his younger siblings all either married and started families or just moved out, once again leaving Fin to care for his aging mother, still continuing to work in a factory. He believed and knew deep in his heart that he was meant for more than the life he had, and was searching for meaning and purpose. His mother was a strong Christian woman, but Fin had never really known or understood God the way she did.
In 1936, when Fin was 30 years old, after a long-standing battle for survival, Fin’s mother Hannah went to heaven, leaving Fin in a state of brokenness. He didn’t turn to the God his mother loved. Rather, he had a bitterness against the God who had “taken his mother” from his hands, and wanting to make his future “brighter and better”, he chose to join the SS, quickly rising in the ranks to become an officer. He was determined to make Germany “better”, no matter what he had to do to make it that way. He was transferred to a camp…
…and, oh, the things he did…he did them very well.
For years, he felt no shame…no sense of conviction…thinking he was doing the right thing for his Country, and…too blinded by his pain, bitterness, anger, and grief to even think about the total ugliness of what he was doing.
But after 4 years in the SS…in 1940, a year after WWII officially began…his entire world was shaken under him.
He was on a specific duty, set to kill prisoners…and as always, he did it perfectly.
He reached an elderly man…weapon ready…ready to get rid of him as well…when the man turned to him…a soft, peaceful smile on his face, and whispered, to Fin, the man who was preparing to kill him, “God forgives you…and so do I.”
Right then and there…Fin’s world was pulled out from underneath him.
That man had sent him on a journey to figuring out about that one man’s God, the God of Fin’s own mother. Fin talked to prisoners, trying to find out about the God that man knew, desperate for the God he was once so angry at, still searching for meaning…trying to fill the emptiness inside, and wondering, more than anything, how that man could forgive Fin, his enemy, so easily.
After months, maybe even a year, after talking to many prisoners and meeting Ezekiel, a young pastor, Fin found the meaning he had always been searching for in the God he once refused to even acknowledge.
His story to healing wasn’t quite over yet. There was still guilt and shame to triumph over, and he still didn’t understand everything about God. But with others’ help and God’s, Fin rose victorious.
He began helping save Jews and other innocent people from the camps, and rose in the ranks in the SS to become in charge of the camp…
…allowing for him to be there 4 years later, in 1944, in the midst of WWII, when Riker is transferred over to the camp and needs him.
Sooo…yeah!!! That’s my boy Fin!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
February 23, 2023 at 2:45 pm #134394Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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Woooo…that was a lot to write. 😂😂😂😂
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this is what happens when someone lets me loose with the backstories…😜)February 23, 2023 at 2:57 pm #134396@freedomwriter76
AHHHH FIN!!! OMG THAT IS SOOO GOOD!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Aww that gives so much more meaning to his character and just Ughhh!!! *mentally hugs him*
😭❤️😭❤️😭❤️😭❤️
That must’ve taken a lot of effort!! (Coming up with it, writing it, and then sharing it on here)! Thank you so much for sharing!!
I love him so much more now…I’m definitely attached XD 😭❤️#HugRikerSquad
February 23, 2023 at 3:01 pm #134397Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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AHHHH FIN!!! OMG THAT IS SOOO GOOD!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
AWWW, THANK YOU!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ (y’know…Fin would have been the main villain…😲🤐 After Riker became an MC, I needed a replacement villain…and it was Fin! 😱 But a bit of thinking and a conversation with my Mom changed everything. 😂😂😂)
Aww that gives so much more meaning to his character and just Ughhh!!! *mentally hugs him*
*hugs him* His backstory is one of my favs… 🥰🥰🥰
That must’ve taken a lot of effort!! (Coming up with it, writing it, and then sharing it on here)! Thank you so much for sharing!!
I’ve probably been working on it for an entire year or more…😅😂
You are soooo welcome!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love sharing! 🥰
I love him so much more now…I’m definitely attached XD 😭❤️*sniffs* Me too…😭❤️😭❤️😭❤️
February 23, 2023 at 3:07 pm #134398Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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@lightoverdarkness6. @esther-c. @mineralizedwritings. @godlyfantasy12. @princesachronicle22. @thearcaneaxiom. @gwyndalf-the-wise. @anyone-else-that-wants-to-read!
I have this scene that’s in my current draft of my main WIP, and I wanted some thoughts!!! Y’all can critique if you want, but I’m more of just asking what y’all think of the characters/conversation/things like that, not really the writing style, lol, but y’all can critique if you want! 🥰😊❤️
The moon rose high in the sky, plunging the camp into almost complete darkness, save for searchlights on the tall watchtowers along the walls.
He couldn’t stop watching…couldn’t stop staring.
He just couldn’t take his eyes away from the suffering.
It hurt to watch. But maybe Riker just deserved to hurt.
After all, he was responsible for much of it. How could he ever tear his eyes away from suffering he had caused?
“All of the men were taken to their barracks…now what are you looking at?”
Riker briskly turned on his heel, saluted Fin, and brought his right hand and arm back down to his side, standing as still as a statue. “Apologies, sir. Did you need me for something?”
Fin smiled and shook his head, removing his hat, instead holding it at his side, slicking back his light brown hair. “No. You’ve done enough these past two weeks. Maybe more than enough.”
“I’m here to do anything you have need of sir.” Riker replied.
And thank goodness, almost everything he’d been asked to do was paperwork. He finally didn’t have to do interrogations.
“Riker, it’s okay that you hate this place. I do too.”
Riker blinked and met Fin’s eyes. “…Sir?”
Fin sighed and ran his free hand through his hair again, biting his lip, “This place is filthy…full of death and suffering…it’s horrible and wrong, and it’s okay to admit that.”
Riker dropped his voice to a whisper. “Those are dangerous words, sir.”
Fin nodded, putting his cap back on his head. “They are. But no less dangerous than what I’m already doing…” Fin trailed off. Smiled. “Well, Riker, do you have a family?”
Riker raised an eyebrow. A sudden change of subject?
Fin smiled and nodded towards a guard that was walking past on patrol.
Riker nodded and walked over, instead standing beside Fin. “Yes, I do have a family. A wife. Three kids, all who are ten or younger. With a fourth child on the way.”
“Congratulations on the fourth child. And your wife and kids, they must be wonderful, correct?”
Riker smiled, thinking about all three of his wonderful kids…and his beautiful wife. “They are. More than I could have ever hoped for.”
But he couldn’t talk about his family too much, especially his youngest child.
Eli had to be kept a secret.
“You miss them, don’t you?”
Riker faced Fin again and realized that he was actually…curious. Not just to be a distraction, but actually…curious.
Riker blinked. Well, that hadn’t been expected. “…I do. Very much. More than I can bear, sometimes…”
Fin nodded. “I’m not a father nor a husband, so I don’t understand what it’s like to miss a wife and kids, but I’m sure it’s hard.”
Riker nodded and coughed, clearing his throat. “It is.”
Fin began walking, and Riker did the same, acting as if they were two officers having a friendly stroll and chat.
“I’m sure it is difficult…you’d do anything to keep them safe, wouldn’t you?”
Riker nodded. “Anything.”
“Now that you’ve seen…this,” Fin motioned to the camp, “do you think Germany is safe for them anymore?”
“They…they haven’t done anything wrong, so…they wouldn’t be taken here.”
“Did any of the people here do anything wrong, Riker, or were they just taken here because they were undesired?”
Riker paused. Because most, if not all, of the people in the camp were innocent…most of them being Jews, they had only been arrested for being Jews. “…Most of them are just undesired.”
Fin nodded. “So, I ask again, do you think Germany is safe for your family anymore? These camps aren’t the only ones doing things, I may add. The mental hospitals, Riker, you have to know about them, right?”
Riker nodded, unsure of where this was going.
“…Have you ever heard of anyone coming back from those…or do they always…disappear?”
“…Disappear.”
Fin nodded, eyes bright with tears. “There’s a reason why. The infirmary here…most of the men are simply killed because the doctors don’t want to care for them. And the hospitals, well, they do the same.”
Riker fought the queasiness of his stomach, forcing down bile that had risen in his throat. His stomach churned, now knowing all of the murder he had helped commit.
And his head pounded with fear as a question kept rising to the surface of his thoughts. “Sir?”
Fin faced him with a small smile, stopping in his tracks. “Yes, Riker?”
“…Are the deaf and mute killed here or at the hospitals?”
Fin blinked. “…That’s a very specific question…but yes. Here and at the hospitals, the deaf and mute are undesired and…Riker, are you alright?”
Riker’s head throbbed harder. The world spun around him. He could only think one thing: “No. No. No. Please, no.” His head was swimming, and he didn’t hear…he couldn’t think about anything except his little boy.
He felt Fin grab his arms and slowly help him sit on the ground, knees up. “Head in between your knees…” He whispered, helping Riker do so.
Riker sat like that for a few minutes, slowly feeling the dizziness pass.
He lifted his head and met Fin’s eyes, which were filled with concern. Fin smiled faintly. “There. That’s better now, isn’t it?”
Riker just nodded, feeling all the more like a little child.
“What’s wrong…? You completely phased out.”
Riker didn’t speak yet, knowing all too well his voice would crack if he did so.
“Someone you love…they’re mute and deaf…aren’t they?”
Riker nodded and took in a deep breath. “My…my youngest son, Eli…he’s only four…and he can’t speak or hear.”
Fin’s gray eyes softened even more. “…I see. And you’re worried about him…Riker, what if I told you I could get your family out of Germany? Do you have any family that lives somewhere else?”
Riker nodded. “My wife’s parents live in America.”
Fin smiled and nodded, standing. “Perfect. If your wife is willing, I can get her and your children to England, and from there they can obtain visas to America.”
Riker stood. “Sir, how? Travel between England and Germany is forbidden.”
Fin smiled softly. “Your son could be in danger…and I’m willing to break the law for that.”
“But sir…you could be arrested…maybe…killed.”
“A small price to pay for saving the life of the innocent. And besides, death isn’t the end.” Fin smiled. “I’m granting you leave for a week to go see your wife and kids and so you can spend time with them and tell your wife about the plan.”
“Sir…I-I don’t deserve this.” Riker whispered, gaze falling to his boots.
Fin set his hands on Riker’s shoulders and gripped them firmly. “Riker…look at me.”
Riker slowly obeyed. Their eyes met.
“I’m going to get your family to safety, even if it’s the last thing I do. Go see them…spend time with them…and I will help you get them somewhere safe.”
“…I will.” Riker replied quietly.
Fin nodded, smiled, and patted Riker’s shoulder. “Spend time with your family, and God be with you, Riker.”
February 23, 2023 at 3:08 pm #134400@freedomwriter76
AWWW, THANK YOU!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ (y’know…Fin would have been the main villain…😲🤐 After Riker became an MC, I needed a replacement villain…and it was Fin! 😱 But a bit of thinking and a conversation with my Mom changed everything. 😂😂😂)
You’re SOO welcome!! ❤️❤️❤️
*Gasps* Oh no!! 😱😱 I’m so glad you changed his role 😂! It wouldn’t be the same without Fin ❤️❤️.
Oh yes, Moms are amazing for talking sense into us 😂😂😂….and giving advice…(about anything and everything, lol)…and just being awesome. 😂❤️❤️❤️
*hugs him* His backstory is one of my favs… 🥰🥰🥰
*Hugs him tighter, with you*
I hope he’s not suffacating… :(l) XD.Yes!! I can see why 🥰🥰🥰I’ve probably been working on it for an entire year or more…😅😂
You are soooo welcome!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love sharing! 🥰
Oh wow!! Yeah, it’s amazingly detailed and soooo good!! Aww good!! I love reading 😂❤️!
*sniffs* Me too…😭❤️😭❤️😭❤️
😭❤️😭❤️
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February 23, 2023 at 3:14 pm #134402Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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*Gasps* Oh no!! 😱😱 I’m so glad you changed his role 😂! It wouldn’t be the same without Fin ❤️❤️.
IKR!? 😱😫 You and me both, girl, you and me both!!! 😂 For sure!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Oh yes, Moms are amazing for talking sense into us 😂😂😂….and giving advice…(about anything and everything, lol)…and just being awesome. 😂❤️❤️❤️
Amen to that, sister!!! ❤️❤️❤️
*Hugs him tighter, with you*
I hope he’s not suffacating… :(l) XD.Yes!! I can see why 🥰🥰🥰He’s fine!!!❤️❤️❤️😂
Oh wow!! Yeah, it’s amazingly detailed and soooo good!! Aww good!! I love reading 😂❤️!
Yeah, a long time! 😂 Aww, thanks, girl!!! ❤️❤️❤️ Yess…I love sharing! And I’m glad you love reading! It makes me happy! 🥰🥰🥰
February 23, 2023 at 3:19 pm #134404@freedomwriter76
AHHH RIKER!!! FIN!!!! OMG That was soooo good!!! Aww Fin is so precious!! And RIKER!!! 😭❤️😭❤️😭❤️
This conversation was so realistic! Like, I could feel like I was right there with them, listening to them talking. I loved it soo much!! And, like when Riker realized that about Eli…I was so scared for him and all of his family. And FIN!!! AHHH I loved it. You are so good at writing girl!!!
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