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    TheArcaneAxiom
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      Me and My Sister Just finished Othbringer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

      #166769
      PrincesaChronicle22
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        And guess what? His is eternal (:

        #166771
        Cloaked Mystery
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          @thearcaneaxiom @princesachronicle22

          Woohoo! What did you think? Oathbringer is my favorite climax.

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          #166783
          TheArcaneAxiom
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            @jonas

            It was awesome!!! The climax felt felt like a continuous streak of mind-blowing unfolding and action. I’m currently wondering about Dalinar’s relationship with the Honor shard at this point though, because he ascended, but not completely? Or he’s somehow sharing it with the StormFather?

            He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

            #166785
            Cloaked Mystery
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              @thearcaneaxiom

              The climax felt felt like a continuous streak of mind-blowing unfolding and action.

              Yeah, the way that it jumped between perspectives worked really well. A movie version of this scene would just beĀ incredible!

              What do you think about whatā€™s happening with Renarin? That was one of the most surprising reveals in my opinion.

              Iā€™m currently wondering about Dalinarā€™s relationship with the Honor shard at this point though, because he ascended, but not completely? Or heā€™s somehow sharing it with the StormFather?

              (I donā€™t know anything more about this than you do, so none of this is a spoiler.)

              I think it has something to do with the fact that Honorā€™s shard was splinteredā€”-it isnā€™t in one piece. The Stormfather is the biggest piece though. One thing I find interesting is that for some reason most people seem to think that Kaladin will become Honor, even though as it stands now, Dalinar is the most likely candidate.

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              #166786
              HighScribe
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                @thearcaneaxiom @princesachronicle22

                WHOOOOOOO šŸ„³šŸ„³

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                #166809
                TheArcaneAxiom
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                  @jonas

                  Yeah, the way that it jumped between perspectives worked really well. A movie version of this scene would just beĀ incredible!

                  I know! The amount of purely cinematic moments throughout the series is incredible, but this would be an epic avengers style climax in theaters, only better.

                  What do you think about whatā€™s happening with Renarin? That was one of the most surprising reveals in my opinion.

                  I find it interesting. I didn’t expect it, but we knew something weird has been going on for quite a while, and Sanderson just has been giving crumbs the whole time until now. It seems that it’s a spren corrupted by the unmade that is defecting, in which case, it could be good? If nothing else, it has given Renarin and edge that he at least for now can use as a force for good.

                  I think it has something to do with the fact that Honorā€™s shard was splinteredā€”-it isnā€™t in one piece. The Stormfather is the biggest piece though. One thing I find interesting is that for some reason most people seem to think that Kaladin will become Honor, even though as it stands now, Dalinar is the most likely candidate.

                  Yeah, that seems to fit what he was saying when he said it was honors remnant, the StormFather, and him. When Dalinar did ascend in that moment, he didn’t say “I am Honor” when asked, he said “I am Unity”, so if he does fully ascend, is it possible that the shard will change in title, sort of like Harmony did? I’ve debated whether it would be Dalinar or Kaladin myself. I think they both could do it, but I like Dalinar more, because it fits his arc’s focus. It could work for Kaladin, but that would also make me sad.

                  He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

                  #166811
                  Cloaked Mystery
                  @jonas
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                    @thearcaneaxiom

                    Here are two interesting tidbits Iā€™ve been speculating on. See what you think.

                    In one of the cabinets in Urithiru, a gemstone message from an ancient Truthwatcher says ā€œI foresaw this.ā€ Thatā€™s not the whole thing, but itā€™s the important part.

                    Secondly, what about that part when sodium screams ā€œWE KILLED YOUā€? Who is ā€˜weā€™?

                    I have my own theory in regards to the second one, but what do you think?

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                    #166812
                    TheArcaneAxiom
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                      @jonas

                      In one of the cabinets in Urithiru, a gemstone message from an ancient Truthwatcher says ā€œI foresaw this.ā€ Thatā€™s not the whole thing, but itā€™s the important part.

                      That is a very important point. It makes sense that seeing the future isn’t necessarily a corrupt quality, as that’s a shared ability of all the shards as far as I know. Yet the spren is corrupt regardless, so they assume that’s what tells him the future, but there’s definitely a lot more going on.

                      Secondly, what about that part when sodium screams ā€œWE KILLED YOUā€? Who is ā€˜weā€™?

                      At the time I assumed Odium just meant his armies, but that may not be the case. It could be interesting if another shard was involved, perhaps autonomy, but I don’t know.

                      He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.

                      #166815
                      PrincesaChronicle22
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                        @thearcaneaxiom @jonas

                        Here are two interesting tidbits Iā€™ve been speculating on. See what you think.

                        In one of the cabinets in Urithiru, a gemstone message from an ancient Truthwatcher says ā€œI foresaw this.ā€ Thatā€™s not the whole thing, but itā€™s the important part.

                        Secondly, what about that part when sodium screams ā€œWE KILLED YOUā€? Who is ā€˜weā€™?

                        Yeah, definitely interesting!

                        There are so many small and random details that I’m curious about after OB. Like with Eshonai’s death. Was the thing Venli saw near her, Timbre? How does Timbre tie with Eshonai if it’s just a spren? Why does Timbre know Rhythms?

                        How are all of the Heralds lives connected, and what was special about the blade that killed the Herald of Kings?

                        And even with his highly advanced intelligence, what made it so Taravangian could foresee so much? Is there a form of Investiture that he’s accessing each time he’s ‘smart’?

                        Then finally, why couldn’t I see more of Shallan’s and Adolin’s wedding? I mean come on! I waited so long for that.

                        Love is patient. Love is kind. Love never fails. -1 Corinthians
                        And guess what? His is eternal (:

                        #166816
                        HighScribe
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                          @princesachronicle22

                          I wonā€™t spoil anything, but at least some of your questions will be answered.

                          My lips are sealed šŸ¤

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                          #166817
                          PrincesaChronicle22
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                            Ooh really?? Most excellent

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                            I’m going to assume that doesn’t account the one about their wedding though šŸ˜‚

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                            And guess what? His is eternal (:

                            #166819
                            HighScribe
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                              @princesachronicle22

                              No lol.

                              Any noun can become a verb if you don't care enough.

                              #166821
                              Cloaked Mystery
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                                @thearcaneaxiom

                                That is a very important point. It makes sense that seeing the future isnā€™t necessarily a corrupt quality, as thatā€™s a shared ability of all the shards as far as I know. Yet the spren is corrupt regardless, so they assume thatā€™s what tells him the future, but thereā€™s definitely a lot more going on.

                                So the weird thing is, Brandon Sanderson confirmed that Renarin is the first person to bond a corrupt spren. It seems to be implied that his future sight is only because of the corruption, and not a normal Truthwatcher ability. But then what is going on with this ancient Truthwatcher? If he isnā€™t corrupted, thenĀ isĀ future sight a normal Truthwatcher power? The full message doesnā€™t seem to support this, because the Truthwatcher seems to not want anyone else to know.

                                At the time I assumed Odium just meant his armies, but that may not be the case. It could be interesting if another shard was involved, perhaps autonomy, but I donā€™t know.

                                My personal speculation is that ā€˜youā€™ refers not to Honor, but to Adonalsium, and that ā€˜weā€™ refers to all the Shards. That would imply that Dalinar was somehow closer to becoming Adonalsium or something than anyone has before. That seems a bit strange, since he isnā€™t even in possession of a single entire Shard. Not sure if this theory has any merit, but I think there must be something significant about that line.

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                                #166823
                                Cloaked Mystery
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                                  @princesachronicle22

                                  How are all of the Heralds lives connected, and what was special about the blade that killed the Herald of Kings?

                                  Speaking of the Heralds, Iā€™m pretty sure that by the end of RoW, all of them will have made an appearance. (Not a spoiler, cause for most of them it isnā€™t obvious or even confirmed.) So keep an eye out for them! Herald-spotting is one of my favorite pastimes!

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