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January 19, 2023 at 6:33 pm #129459
@booksandbeakers
Traditional publishing. A traditional publisher won’t charge you anything, they’ll only take a cut of the profit when your book sells. Spending money on marketing would be the only expense.
Yes, I used KDP. I tried IngramSpark for my last book and gave up because it was such a pain and way more expensive, so I went back to KDP. Formatting is quite a pain, but, yes, worth it. And if you decide to indie publish over the long run and learn to format well, that’s an excellent investment for future books. The short stories I formatted and published were great learning experiences and would almost certainly have enabled me to format my novel if I’d wanted to deal with the headache myself.
I can’t say for sure what the impact is of self-publishing and then pursuing traditional publication, but I can’t imagine gaining a readership would hurt (and indie publishing is beneficial to that end). It may still be prudent to refrain from that if the quality wouldn’t be great, but I doubt it would completely ruin your chances anyway.
I’m a freelance line editor, and I know a number of other freelancers I could refer you to for all different kinds of edits. (What the different types of edits are and why they’re important is another post series on my blog, if you want to look into that down the road.)
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January 20, 2023 at 1:27 pm #129500Anonymous- Rank: Eccentric Mentor
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@booksandbeakers Apparently it did. Weird. It’s never done that before…
It’s draft2digital.com!
You’re so welcome! đ
January 22, 2023 at 8:03 am #129631Anonymous- Rank: Wise Jester
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@gracie-j I checked out the website! It looks amazing!
January 22, 2023 at 3:16 pm #129648Anonymous- Rank: Eccentric Mentor
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@booksandbeakers Glad you think so! It really is!
January 26, 2023 at 3:51 pm #130156@booksandbeakers I believe my introduction post also vanished into the âpending moderationâ void, which is why I may appear to have popped up unannounced. đ Iâve also chosen the self-publishing/indie publishing route, and honestly, the formatting for paperbacks on KDP is not that bad. I did it myself in Microsoft Word, and while KDP told me my fonts werenât embedded (they were), they came through fine in the print copy. So itâs definitely doable. I also formatted my own e-books in HTML. Most people use sites like Smashwords and Draft2Digital for that, I believe, but once you learn the HTML, it really isnât hard, and it ensures that your e-book file wonât do wonky things on later Kindle devices or off-brand e-readers. If thatâs something you want to try on your own, let me know and Iâll send you my e-book formatting guide.
I also highly recommend Thomas Umstattd Jr.âs site, AuthorMedia. It is chock full of articles and podcast episodes for all kinds of publishing questions. You may feel as if youâve fallen down a rabbit hole, but it will be worth it. Start with his two articles/episodes âHow to Get Traditionally Publishedâ and âHow to Publish Your Book Independentlyâ (Iâll try to link those below). Those will answer a lot of your questions about the financial differences, the processes for each kind of publishing, etc. Indie publishing some of your material should not affect your ability to traditionally publish later; many successful authors have some books indie published and some trad published. AuthorMedia also has articles on things like how to find a good editor. đ Like @r-m-archer, Iâm an editor myself and have some insider knowledge, so let me know if you want to know more about editors and how to find them.
âJayna Baas
Christian Author/Editor
www.booksbyjayna.comJanuary 26, 2023 at 3:53 pm #130158How to Get Published with a Traditional Publishing House
âJayna Baas
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www.booksbyjayna.comJanuary 26, 2023 at 3:53 pm #130159How to Publish Your Book Independently
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www.booksbyjayna.comJanuary 26, 2023 at 7:07 pm #130252I have a question….if you don’t mind….
I have a finished first draft of a 14,113 word novelette and I was wondering at what point would you suggest I hire a professional editor? I want to do some revisions, line editing, and have it Alpha read, but that’s about as far as I’ve planned.
He must increase, but I must decrease.
January 27, 2023 at 12:33 pm #130308@booksbyjayna I have a questionâŚ.if you donât mindâŚ. I have a finished first draft of a 14,113 word novelette and I was wondering at what point would you suggest I hire a professional editor? I want to do some revisions, line editing, and have it Alpha read, but thatâs about as far as Iâve planned.
@felicity I donât mind at all. I recommend this order:1. Self-editing first
2. Then alpha readers (if youâre using them)
3. Then revisions based on alpha feedback
4. Then beta readers
5. Then revisions based on beta feedback
After that, you can move on to professional editing. The idea is to present your editor with the absolute best version of your manuscript, which will save her time and save you money. Keep in mind that a first draft usually needs several rounds of self-revision before itâs ready for editing. Alpha readers can help with that, but youâll want a more polished draft before you move on to beta readers.
If your beta readers are good and you ask them specific questions about the plot and character development, you may not need a substantive/developmental/content edit for a novelette. A deep copyedit/line edit will probably do the job. Then youâll want a final proofreading pass, preferably after formatting, before publishing the story.
Does that help? Let me know if Iâve created more questions. đ
âJayna Baas
Christian Author/Editor
www.booksbyjayna.comJanuary 27, 2023 at 12:35 pm #130309@felicity I forgot to mentionâmy primary fiction genre for copyediting is historical fiction, so if thatâs the genre youâre working with, Iâd be happy to give you a free sample edit any time. My editing website is booksbyjayna.com/editing.
âJayna Baas
Christian Author/Editor
www.booksbyjayna.comJanuary 29, 2023 at 7:14 am #130470Anonymous- Rank: Wise Jester
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@booksbyjayna Thank you! I felt kind of overwhelmed at first, but it doesn’t SEEM like rocket science (we hope). Formatting is the place I feel like I’d have the most trouble, anyway.
Thank you, it clears up the can-you-self-publish-and-then-traditional-publish question!
Also, Felicity’s question helped me too.
Is Smashwords like Draft2Digital?
January 30, 2023 at 10:49 am #130638Thank you so much! Yes that was very helpful!
I will certainly keep your services in mind, since I mostly write Historical Fiction. đ
He must increase, but I must decrease.
January 30, 2023 at 11:57 am #130651Thank you so much! Yes that was very helpful! I will certainly keep your services in mind, since I mostly write Historical Fiction. đ
@felicity Iâm glad it was helpful. If you enjoy historical fiction, you might like the short story I offer to my newsletter subscribers at https://subscribepage.com/booksbyjayna.âJayna Baas
Christian Author/Editor
www.booksbyjayna.comJanuary 30, 2023 at 11:59 am #130653Thank you! I felt kind of overwhelmed at first, but it doesnât SEEM like rocket science (we hope). Formatting is the place I feel like Iâd have the most trouble, anyway. Thank you, it clears up the can-you-self-publish-and-then-traditional-publish question! Also, Felicityâs question helped me too. Is Smashwords like Draft2Digital?
@booksandbeakers Itâs not rocket science. đ Just takes a lot of perseverance. I believe Draft2Digital recently acquired Smashwords; since I havenât used either service, Iâm not sure how their services overlap.
âJayna Baas
Christian Author/Editor
www.booksbyjayna.comFebruary 2, 2023 at 1:13 pm #130154@booksandbeakers, I believe my introduction post also vanished into the âpending moderationâ void, which is why I may appear to have popped up unannounced. đ Iâve also chosen the self-publishing/indie publishing route, and honestly, the formatting for paperbacks on KDP is not that bad. I did it myself in Microsoft Word, and while KDP told me my fonts werenât embedded (they were), they came through fine in the print copy. So itâs definitely doable. I also formatted my own e-books in HTML. Most people use sites like Smashwords and Draft2Digital for that, I believe, but once you learn the HTML, it really isnât hard, and it ensures that your e-book file wonât do wonky things on later Kindle devices or off-brand e-readers. If thatâs something you want to try on your own, let me know and Iâll send you my e-book formatting guide.
I also highly recommend Thomas Umstattd Jr.âs site, AuthorMedia.com. It is chock full of articles and podcast episodes for all kinds of publishing questions. You may feel as if youâve fallen down a rabbit hole, but it will be worth it. Start with these two articles: https://www.authormedia.com/how-to-get-published-with-a-traditional-publishing-house/ and https://www.authormedia.com/how-to-publish-your-book-independently/. Those will answer a lot of your questions about the financial differences, the processes for each kind of publishing, etc. AuthorMedia also has articles on things like how to find a good editor. đ Like @r-m-archer, Iâm an editor myself and have some insider knowledge, so let me know if you want to know more about editors and how to find them.
âJayna Baas
Christian Author/Editor
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