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Oh and @Bluejay, most certainly, do post the video link when you can. 🙂
But ENFJs are supposed to be the shyest/quietest of the extroverts, so even if they’re highly extroverted they can still be mistaken for introverts.
I know I’m not an ENFJ now, but I don’t think that ever suited me when I was one. No one can mistake me for an introvert. Even if they were offered money. 🙂
I will @emma-flournoy. If it ever gets finished. 🙂
@emma-flournoy Well, first of all, I am a guy. That counts for probably half of it. And then, there’s lot’s of variance even within types and personality things that belong only to an individual. For instance, many people cry over the red fern grows. I didn’t even come close to close to close. Pet’s just don’t connect with me. I dread the idea of having sharing humanity with them and would rather keep it all for myself and other humans. And then too, tragedy doesn’t really affect me very much. That’s probably a male thing too. But there is one thing that will absolutely break me. That is a touch of love in the midst of absolute darkness and despair — an undying faith in the truth in such circumstances — hope where it doesn’t make sense. It’s a wonderful life, the miracle at the river kwai (of which I only heard a summarized version), and several of those torch lighter movies have gotten me to the point where if no one was around, I would have absolutely bawled, but I guess witnesses have a strong influence on me 😉
I do feel though like I’m getting more emotional these days, which is weird, so I’m blaming it all on kingdom pen.
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And then, there’s lot’s of variance even within types and personality things that belong only to an individual.
Oh, certainly. And that’s good.But there is one thing that will absolutely break me. That is a touch of love in the midst of absolute darkness and despair — an undying faith in the truth in such circumstances — hope where it doesn’t make sense.
That kind of thing at least makes me teary eyed; it’s just not the only kind of thing. 🙂
*Different people*I do feel though like I’m getting more emotional these days, which is weird, so I’m blaming it all on kingdom pen.
I commend your sense of logic. 😀
You mean before we were talking about it on here, @Daeus, right?
Yeah, you were purpose driven and you set forth an act, manipulating by influence. You were fairly subtle, probably good at feigning you understood less than you actually did, conducting matters with a certain delicacy. It was all incredibly amusing since I knew what you were doing but didn’t want to seem like it, while at the same time trying to be exactly the same way myself (though I frankly did a pretty bad job of it).
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Wh-wh-what?
Uh…sorry, I don’t think I’m getting what you’re talking about.
Kate thinks maybe when we first met in person?
Okay…okay. Is that what you mean?@emma-flournoy Yeah, that was where it mainly showed. Of course, I am going completely off conjecture here, but I got a fairly strong impression of it. Am I sounding crazy?
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@Daeus no, you’re not sounding crazy at all. With the picture you got, @Emma-Flournoy is undoubtedly an ENFJ.
But I have something to say on this. *puffs up importantly* I still think Emma is closer to ISFJ than ENFJ— except when it comes to me. For some reason. 😛 She’s like my agent or something. The ENFJ comes out dominant in her whenever I’m too shy for my own good, which is actually more often than it probably should be. XD
Yes, dear KeePers. I am shy. Sorry to break it to you after all this time. *grins*
On a typical normal day, Emma is more ISFJ than ENFJ. Unless she’s playing her violin, in which case the ENFJ perfectionism comes straight up all the way to the surface. 😀
So Emma, it’s like you’re in disguise… *gasp!* a superhero with a gentle, mild-mannered alter-ego who transforms into a brilliant rescuer the moment danger (aka social interaction 😛 ) threatens her loved ones with non-existence!
(Not that I can’t be social by myself… it just takes me longer to get around to it. *chuckles*)See Daeus that’s funny, because I’ve gotten less emotional since becoming part of the KP community. I used to cry at the drop of a hat. Not anymore. Now it takes a real tear-jerker to make me actually cry instead of just stumble around for days afterward in a daze. (Or something incredibly happy— like you were saying with It’s a Wonderful Life. Love that movie.)
…And the further this topic goes, the more convinced I am that a t-shirt about participants and human experiments would be quite appropriate… XD
@kate-flournoy Ha! That was my thought exactly — your agent. Guess it’s nice to have one of those.
So, not being very familiar with that personality type, I looked it up. Now, I’m really not the one to draw a line here, but it seems to me that on a normal day, an ENFJ and an ISFJ would be almost undiscernable. The difference would be mainly apparent in their social life, in their inner thoughts, and in the way they plan out their lives.
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@Daeus yes. All 4% of the population who are INFPs should have their own personal ENFJ to make sure things actually happen. XD
You do have a point there, but while outward appearances/behaviors can certainly provide great clues it’s not perfect for interpretation— with MBTI, it’s not what people are or do or look like, but how they think. @Emma-Flournoy has a lot of the ISFJ thought-process— the I’m-going-to-do-my-thing-back-here-in-the-shadows-and-not-bother-anyone-else-with-my-problems mentality.
At the very least she’s half of each. I know for certain her S is stronger than her N, if only a very little.
What do you think, Emma?No, you’re not sounding crazy; I just wasn’t sure what you were talking about at first. 🙂
I understand you now; mostly. If you mean by ‘manipulating by influence’ that I was doing this at someone elses’ request (which I don’t think is what you mean?), I wasn’t. I did it by myself, because I was afraid if a third party weren’t involved, you and Kate wouldn’t meet each other that night. You had never seen her before, at least when you knew who it was (you hadn’t, right?), so you wouldn’t have known it was her; and I was afraid Kate might or might not be too shy to do it herself! Or at least, that it would be easier if I helped out.
And with this—‘feigning you understood less than you actually did’—*choke* You mean this ‘Hi, you’re Daeus Lamb, right?’ when I knew perfectly well you were Daeus Lamb?! Ha, yeah. But I couldn’t exactly come up and just say, ‘Hi Daeus, I’m going to take you to meet Kate’ when you had no idea who I was! (Because you didn’t, right?)
This part’s probably very un-ENFJ, though. I was terribly nervous, and I actually passed by you intending to speak several times before I finally made myself do it. When I did, you could probably tell I was nervous, by the rather confused jumble that came out of my mouth instead of the perfectly coherent little ‘speech’ I’d rehearsed. 😛
I love going up and talking to people, but it’s very hard to actually do it sometimes, especially if I know them but they don’t know me. 😉 That part’s probably ISFJ—the nervousness.It was all incredibly amusing since I knew what you were doing but didn’t want to seem like it, while at the same time trying to be exactly the same way myself (though I frankly did a pretty bad job of it).
And maybe I’m missing part of the picture here—did you actually know who I was before I told you?
Anyway. But this is very good! Now we have a sort of understanding between us. Maybe next time we meet in person, I’ll be more at ease. *grimace* Easier said than done, of course. Why is it so much easier to be un-shy online than in person?! 🙂
I’m not saying I’m way ENFJ. How I feel, I think it’s about half and half (especially after reading the ENFJ profile the other day), with yes, the S a little stronger than the N. I understand the difference between S and N now though (finally!), and I’m certain I’ve got a fair amount of both. 😉
Hmmm…your agent. I like that. 😀
Let me see if I get this right. Two proverbs and the personality types that they suit.
Look before you leap – Introverted
He who hesitates is lost – Extroverted.
Just something I’ve been pondering. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
@kate-flournoy, @emma-flournoy, @daeus@emma-flournoy No, by manipulating by influence, I meant trying to steer people where you wanted them to go, set the tone you wanted — basically control a situation without seeming controlling.
Ha! You rehearsed a speech? That’s so ENFJ. Did you re-rehearse it afterwards millions of times in preparation for a similar situation in the future?
Um, I’m not sure if I knew you. I at least guessed, though.
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