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May 4, 2023 at 1:46 pm #142216
@loopylin ROFL!!!!
@whalekeeper also totally gonna go check out those songs!#IfMarcelDiesIRiot
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 2:54 pm #142219Anonymous- Rank: Knight in Shining Armor
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Hey, uh. How do y’all edit your stuff. I got feedback from people but they were a bit on the vague side such as saying you need to add more futuristic names. Ok… like what? Characters, land, animals, technology? I don’t get it. Lol Or you need more action. Another was, I feel like your character was just thrown in. Give him another role in the story or reveal his identity early on. I needed more details on what role I should give the character. I was also trying to build up the tension for a big reveal. Would anyone be interested in beta reading so you can give more in-depth feedback? I’m going to share it on the critique channel but I don’t want it to accidentally get ignored like my short story did. Anyway, let me know if you want to and I’ll tag you in the thread I’ll make. My main question is what does your editing process look like? This is my 1st time editing a project that is more than 5k. My book is Sci-fi and it’s around 13k. 1 last question, my series is going to be called The Paradise Lie but I don’t have a title for the 1st book. The main theme is deceit and books 2 and 3 have a title. Deceit (book 2) and Conspiracy (book 3). Any ideas? I can put both book 1’s summary and the series summary on here if y’all need it.
May 4, 2023 at 3:55 pm #142230@sarafini
SOOO this actually gives me a chance to share some exciting news with my friends!!!!
I am currently studying to become a book editor!!!! EEEEE!!
so!! That being said!!! I would actually love to help u as it would actually help me XD with my studying lol!!
Firstly, you gotta figure out what kind of editing your doing.
Though, my one concern is this- since your only have 13k I assume you’re not finished with the book?
If not…I truly suggest finishing your draft before editing, but that’s just me.
Otherwise, I think you’d probably be in what’s called the Structural Editing Stage- which is BIG PICTURE.
We’re not looking for grammar or typos, although if we run across them we’ll obviously go ahead and fix them 😉 but that’s not our concern rn. We’re just focusing on big picture, like story, plot holes, etc.
At this point, if this is your first draft I wouldn’t even worry about readability, which is also a part of Structural editing. I’d do that later.
For now if you choose to continue editing while drafting I’d focuse on big story stuff-plot holes, storyline, etc.
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 3:56 pm #142232But my overall advice? If ur still drafting, finish your draft first before editing.
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 4:02 pm #142233Anonymous- Rank: Knight in Shining Armor
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So interestingly enough, people have said it’s incomplete but it’s in a series so I look at this book as complete although the series/overall story isn’t complete. I think my problem is that I can’t see the plot holes. I’ve been trying really hard but it’s so overwhelming. That’s why I’m asking for beta readers. Specifically ones that won’t be vague like my other readers.
May 4, 2023 at 4:53 pm #142242@sarafini
hmm…
Question: Are you writing a Serial?
Different from a series.
The reason many probably think it is incomplete is due to the fact that it is only 13k which is the length of a Novella or Novellete and not a full length novel.
HOWEVER there is nothing wrong with this, and it can still be what is called a Serial Series.
They run sorta Episodic like, in the fact that they are Shorter books, but they have the same affect as a series.
I follow an Authoress on YouTube who wrote one and then compiled it into one whole book (and I love her book sooo much)
She made a whole series on creating Serials if you’re interested, her name is Author Brittany Wang.
The reason many think it’s complete is probably due to the fact that Serials are lesser known (I didn’t know they were really a thing until I found her)
And while yours is probably even shorter then hers it will probably lengthen thru editing and such, (or it may not and that’s okay 😊)
So it’s not probably Incomplete as much as people don’t realize it’s just how the story is structured.
That being said, you’re probably writing a Serial! Which is super cool! I kinda wanna write one 😂
And I’d be super glad to help you out with it, as it would give me a chance to strengthen my own skills as I’m studying for editing and such. If you would like of course.
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 4:55 pm #142243@sarafini would you mind giving me the genre of your book, and the overall premise? (What your first book, and overall series is about?)
and if you’d like my help then I don’t mind being a beta reader, or whatever you’d like me to be.
So long as you don’t mind constructive criticism (nicely of course!! I would never be rude or mean in anyway!! I would hate if anyone did that to meeeee)
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 5:33 pm #142248@whalekeeper THANK U FOR INTRODUCING ME TO THAT ALBUM AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 5:49 pm #142249@whalekeeper @otherworldlyhistorian @folith-feolin @thearcaneaxiom @kyronthearcanin @loopylin @elishavet-pidyon
HEYO world builders I have a question! Sorry to anyone I excluded XD wasn’t entirely sure who to ask??
Anyway I have another question (expect quite a from meh lol
So I have heard differing things on this online, but regarding Harpies (a bird/woman creature) Vs Sirens…
Some ppl say Harpies can also sing beautifully, or emit hypnotic noises just like sirens, whereas others say they can’t and are confused with sirens a lot.
I’m asking because, in my series, I want Lilith, Pax’s mom, to have the ability (and it’s kinda pivotal for the plot) to be able to use some sort of hypnosis or control or something, to trick people, and she uses her voice to do so.
Thing is, if I call it a Siren ability…it kinda confuses ppl if I ever want to make a Siren race (which I do…) so I don’t really wanna call it that.
HOWEVER if I make it where Lilith is a Harpy…
😏 BOOM PROBLEM SOLVED
and she’s already got wings anyway soook yea!
but the issue is I don’t want to upset ppl with like “She’s confusing sirens with harpies!!” And yada yada.
I think I’ll change up the hypnotic abilities between harpies and sirens so there is a bit of a difference? That way it’s obvious they differ?
Because I know as the writer I can play around and work freely with races and species but I just wanted y’all’s opinion on this…
what do y’all think?
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 5:59 pm #142250I think it would be perfectly fine! I mean, like you said, it’s your book. On top of that, I’ve read plenty of books that change up creatures from mythology, or the events that happened in their legends. I doubt you’d get a whole lot of people complaining about the difference being inaccurate either way.
For example, Sirens have different definitions depending on who you ask… dangerous creatures of the sea, humanish creatures with alluring voices, half bird-half woman… So, you know, it’s pretty mixed up already.
So, yeah! I’d say go for it! I love your idea for Pax’s mom! 😃
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May 4, 2023 at 7:24 pm #142253THANK YOU!! XD His story is actually not in development rn, since he’s more of a personal brainchild than anything else… meaning I don’t share his actual story with people… but ya know, maybe I’ll actually write something for him, let him see the light of day XD
And IKR, that album is SO GOOD! My favorite song is Caesar, I think. But Soldier, Poet, King is the most nostalgic.
I say just go ahead, and make Lilith a harpie. Also I love your name choice 🙂
@sarafini
I’ll totally beta read your story!! Mostly because it’s only 13k, and therefore easier to read through than other projects. (Just estimating based on a novella I wrote once, at 14k.) You can totally tag me!! 🙂
Book name ideas: Falsehood, White Lie (although that could be a great short story name, maybe an prequel?), Myth, Distortion, Hypocrisy
“Everything is a mountain”
May 4, 2023 at 7:53 pm #142262@whalekeeper gotchaaa I do luv Seb tho lol!
Idk which is my fav.
I have Soldier, Poet, King by another artist soooo lol
hmm
There all so good and I luv them for different reasons (I use them for imagining different scenes in different books)
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#ProtectSebMay 4, 2023 at 8:48 pm #142265If it helps then in D&D 5e then harpies can use the sirens song ability
May 5, 2023 at 12:44 pm #142289Anonymous- Rank: Chosen One
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@godlyfantasy12 i’d probably just agree with what everyone else said. They all had such good advice/thoughts!! 😁
@loopylin ooh, everyone has such good ideas…and I thought of something similar XDIdea!!! Eddie & Ellie: Cosmos Wanderers
lol…idk…i just saw everyone else’s title ideas and felt inspired 😂
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