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First of all, all the dragons are evil. Dragons were originally representative of the devil, and I honestly don’t like all the good dragons we see nowadays.
Another thing I’m doing is making the dragons the entire villainous faction. It’s probably been done before, but I can’t say I’ve seen an army of dragons before. Even the main antagonist is a dragon.
The main villain is named Argaroth. He is actually a human who used dark magic to gain the ability to transform into a dragon. He’s not going to be a relatable type villain, basically just pure evil, but their will be other villainous characters who are more relatable.
So that sums up the dragons: An army of villainous dragons led by a human who can turn into a dragon. It’s not the most original thing ever, but the story is intentionally a more traditional fantasy style.
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📚 Appreciator of BooksCool! I believe there has been many examples of evil dragon armies, but it’s still makes a good threat. Another writer on here, Solfrye, is actually writing a story like that as well.
Personally, I do really like the good dragon trope, but your point is more than valid and hard to refute. All I can say is that dragons are usually quite benevolent in eastern mythology. You will quickly point out that dragons mentioned in the Bible again are often in reference to the Adversary, and other mythologies are grounded in falsehood. I would point out that when we use the word dragon however, we tend to clump together a whole lot of mythological creatures together that don’t always resemble one another. This isn’t always the case, the similarities of creatures throughout different mythologies are quite intriguing, but we don’t have to get into that right now. My point is that symbols can have inconsistent meaning, not that what they represent is inconsistent, but meaning can change. Other times, multiple and even opposite meanings can come from the same thing, even in the Bible. For example, snakes are almost always a symbol for the Adversary, and are even used interchangeably with dragons, it can even be argued that they are the same. However, recall the serpent that ate the two smaller snakes before the pharaoh, and the bronze serpent on the pole after the people were bitten by fiery flying serpents. If you look at the parallels, the serpent in the latter case seems to be specifically a symbol for the Savior. Now, this may be a wrong interpretation, and please give your own interpretation if you wish, but those are my thoughts. So could dragons be of a similar nature? Could they be symbols of good and nobility, as well as symbols for evil and lust? I would say yes, but I could be wrong. Ultimately I still enjoy the good dragon trope as well as the bad, but I could be wrong in that respect. Once again, I’m a descriptivist in that regard, but I do believe that some symbols contain deeper connotation that should be kept static. Sorry if I’m boring you by the way, I just think that’s an interesting discussion to get into.
Anyway, I still like the concept you have. By the way, do you intend to discuss what even is good and evil, if your going to have a being that is simply pure evil? The philosopher in me can be very annoying I know, but I think this is actually something important to discuss even in a Christian setting, because a lot of different denominations seem to have radically different views on the matter, which I personally find quite strange. If your not, that’s fine, I’m just curious.
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I don’t absolutely hate good dragons, but at this point it is more common than evil dragons and I find it annoying. As far as the symbolism goes, I’ve never read a story where a dragon represented something good, and in my opinion it’s best not to change the traditional imagery. That isn’t to say you couldn’t use a dragon to represent something positive, but it would be harder. If somebody did that, it could be cool. I don’t think that most people who write about good dragons are thinking about the symbolism at all, and that’s what bothers me more.
I don’t have any specific plans in regards to the theme of good and evil, but I’m not representing things in a super black and white way. For this story, I’m not interested in making my main antagonist sympathetic. He’s like Sauron. Like I said, there will be other villains who aren’t like that. One in particular will probably have a redemptive arc.
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📚 Appreciator of BooksFair enough. I agree that people should be more aware of the background of the symbols they present. There is an obvious bias currently for good dragons right now in the culture of storytelling, but that can also just be considered a fad, and will likely oscillate back again. Of course, people are also becoming more and more spiritually disconnected, and that could contribute to more of a mis match of concepts labelling evil as good, and good as evil. Either way, ignorance can be used as a tool for evil by those who are not ignorant, so knowledge of these things is important.
I don’t have any specific plans in regards to the theme of good and evil, but I’m not representing things in a super black and white way. For this story, I’m not interested in making my main antagonist sympathetic. He’s like Sauron. Like I said, there will be other villains who aren’t like that. One in particular will probably have a redemptive arc.
That works… you really should watch Avatar the Last Airbender by the way.
He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.
Oh, and is this character with a potential redemption arch a dragon, or a human with the dragons or a human doing their own thing?
He is perfect in Justice, yet He is perfect in Mercy, even when we fail Him. For this, He is good.
you really should watch Avatar the Last Airbender by the way.
I’ll try to check it out. I don’t have too many opportunities to watch shows. Is that related, or just a random thought?
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📚 Appreciator of BooksOh, and is this character with a potential redemption arch a dragon, or a human with the dragons or a human doing their own thing?
A human with the dragons. I didn’t mention that Argaroth also has evil mutant human foot soldiers, but this guy is like one of his generals.
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📚 Appreciator of BooksIt’s very much related to what you said. There’s some characters that fit the description of characters you’ve mentioned, which isn’t saying much, because a lot would fit, but the particular execution of it is incredible.
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i like your idea for your universe and books on each of the planets. I had an idea for that once, but it kind of fell apart. Good luck with yours!
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LEFSE FOREVER!!!!!! <333Here’s a broad overview of where things stand now. 10/12 planets have been named and prototyped. (@highscribe is collaborating with me on this, and she’s working on half the planets, so I’ll leave it up to her to share about those five if she wants to. Even I don’t know that much about them.)
The five planets I’ve worked on so far are:
Adonial
Ildin
Oldonar
Razath
and Clydak
The stories on each of these planets are going to be quite different. Almost different genres.
Adonial will have a more traditional fantasy story. (Medieval European culture, dragons, etc.)Ildin will be an almost cyberpunk story. (“Magicpunk.”)
Oldonar…has way too little development.
Razath will be a post-apocalyptic story.Clydak doesn’t fit a specific genre very well. A bit sci-fi maybe.
@highscribe has ideas for five more planets, and there are still two left that we haven’t designed at all yet.
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