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    HighScribe
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      @jonas

      That sounds great so far! Question: ‘magical abilities’ is pretty vague. Can you  expand on what the swords can do? How is it related to Arcweaving?

      This sounds very useful for planetary travel, too.

      WAIT, does this somehow have anything  to do with Clydak??

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      #156993
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        @highscribeofaetherium
        So far, the swords just increase the user’s physical abilities. They have permanent Arcpoints in them, which channel Arcflux through the user. And ‘magical abilities’ is intentionally vague, because you could theoretically get a lot of different ones depending on how you do it.

        It would be possible to use it for interplanetary travel, but incredibly, incredibly difficult. If you recall in the overview, Kate uses this ability to open a portal that only travels a few miles for a few seconds and it knocks her out, so opening one across lightyears would take a ridiculous amount of energy.

        No it doesn’t have anything to do with Clydak. Manipulating time and space is part of other magic systems.

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        #156995
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          @jonas

          Ok, but you COULD.

          No it doesn’t have anything to do with Clydak.

          Ok.

          Also, I would wait a bit before reposting.  My submission took at least a week to process. And the forum directors have a lot of other stuff  to manage.

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            @highscribeofaetherium

            Also, I would wait a bit before reposting.  My submission took at least a week to process. And the forum directors have a lot of other stuff  to manage.

            Oh. Did you post something that is still being moderated?

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            #156997
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              @jonas

              No, I meant my submission to the forum. I’ve never seen the moderation feature before. If you want, you can contact them to see if it got lost or is just being moderated still.

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              #156998
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                @highscribeofaetherium
                Okay. I’ll probably just wait a few more days. My post had a link to the google doc of my overview, so maybe that’s why it needs to be moderated?

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                #156999
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                  @jonas

                  Maybe.

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                  #157001
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                    @highscribeofaetherium

                    I do have a magic system for Clydak, though, now that you mention it.

                    Before I get into it, for anyone other than @highscribe, Clydak is one of the planets in Celestiar. It suffered a cataclysmic spacetime anomaly that left it surrounded by a field of fractured spacetime. The planet it composed of nonlinear pockets of distorted spacetime called warpspaces. The magic system is called warpforming, and it involves creating and manipulating warpspaces. (And in case you’re wondering, yes, it would work off planet, because a Warpformer would be able to create warpspaces outside of Clydak, although they’d be less stable and quite temporary. That isn’t important right now, because as it stands now, getting on or off of Clydak is impossible.)

                    Warpformers can control the speed of time within Warpspaces, but the entire Warpspace has a consistent time speed. (i.e. you can’t slow down part of a warpspace. It has to be the whole thing.) Warpformers can also stretch and compress space, lengthening or shortening distances. They can also bend space, which can make what looks like moving in a non-straight path to others, feel and act like travelling in a straight line to someone inside the bent area of space. Unlike messing with time, space doesn’t have to be consistently stretched/compressed/bent within a warpspace.

                    (KP seems to have eaten this post the first time, but I had it copied. If a second one comes through, that’s why.)

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                    #157002
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                      @jonas

                      Ok cool!

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                        I reworked Essenceburning a bit.  Basically, I created three separate powers for each element that I hope will add some variety.
                        For each element, one power lets the user control the element to a limited extent, one lets the user influence a physical property of the element, and the last gives the user a physical buff.

                        Fire:
                        1. the user can telekinetically pull or push on burning particles.
                        2. the user can create an abrasive force that creates heat.
                        3. the user gains physical speed.

                        Water:
                        1. the user creates a force that flows through water, causing the molecules to stick together and form hydro-tendrils that can be used as weapons.
                        2. the user can change water between states of matter.
                        3. the user can make their body more fluid.

                        Earth:
                        1. the user can manipulate objects that are invested with earth energy.
                        2. the user can create and control vibrations.
                        3. the user can make their body stronger and more durable.

                        Air:
                        1. (unknown)
                        2. (unknown)
                        3. the user can make their body lighter.

                        I haven’t come up with two of Air’s abilities yet. What do you think? I’m not sure how these abilities would be distributed, whether each person would get one, or all three, or maybe one from each element.

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                        #157057
                        TheArcaneAxiom
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                          @jonas

                          Sorry, I haven’t been on for a while, allow me to quickly express my thoughts here and there form when I’ve last been here.

                          I would be open to extended elements, but I worry that it would be more cliche than just the four Greek elements. I at one point had a draft for a lightning element, but I couldn’t think of anything interesting to do with it, and I couldn’t think of any other elements I wanted to use, so I just went back to the four main ones.

                          When it comes to elemental magic systems, there’s always more possibilities then the usual four, or adding some to that. I like it when there is a proper theme to an elemental magic system, and the theme makes a believable cosmology. There’s systems like (sky, land, ocean), or similarly (heaven, earth, and nether), then there’s (sun, moon, and stars), or (solid, liquid, gas). Those are all triune systems, but there are other possibilities of four or more like the literal elements, similar to Misborn, the four fundamental forces (gravity, electromagnetic, weak, and strong), and you could keep going. If lightning is one, then maybe it could be (fire, lightning, and solar), a theme of untamed light and power, or it could fit with many other themes.

                          On Arcweaving, I found it quite interesting. It reminded me a lot of my magic system where the different stones pushed and pulled on their respective element. Is it possible that things like gravity and magnetism (if there is magnetism) are just natural manifestations of Archpoints? Another thing I thought of that may not be too influential, but still interesting, could reality be a continuum of overlapping positive and negative Archpoints, and all an Archweaver is doing is seperating the points? Like tapping a zero and getting a positive and negative 1?

                          Oh, and to add to your conversation on moderation, sometimes messages on kp will just get lost, especially when you try posting links on it. Personally, I just jump around this and place a link, then make a space after the h in the beginning, then tell people to copy it and remove the space. Sometimes messages aren’t lost, and actually just take forever though, one I posted took about 2 weeks or so, but I long since reposted it in the fashion I explained.

                          Clydak sounds cool! I love magic systems that warp space and time. In my universe, Itherum is the basic equivalent of spacetime, but it behaves very differently, where it can be ripped off a point of space, and can be overlaid on another, which gets very bazar effects.

                          I like the revisal on Essence Burning. Perhaps for air you could make the air denser and lighter in specific areas, which could be very useful, I’ll have to think more on something else though.

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                          #157061
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                            When it comes to elemental magic systems, there’s always more possibilities then the usual four, or adding some to that. I like it when there is a proper theme to an elemental magic system, and the theme makes a believable cosmology. There’s systems like (sky, land, ocean), or similarly (heaven, earth, and nether), then there’s (sun, moon, and stars), or (solid, liquid, gas).

                            I do kind of want to keep fire, water, earth, and air.

                            Is it possible that things like gravity and magnetism (if there is magnetism) are just natural manifestations of Archpoints?

                            Celestiar mostly follows the rules of our universe, so in most cases, I don’t think I’m going to explain real natural phenomenon with magical rules I invented, so I don’t think that would be the case.

                            Another thing I thought of that may not be too influential, but still interesting, could reality be a continuum of overlapping positive and negative Archpoints, and all an Archweaver is doing is seperating the points? Like tapping a zero and getting a positive and negative 1?

                            So Arcpoints don’t work like simple math. For example, an Arcpoint can be given a specific charge, but two opposite Arcpoints with unequal charges will still cap each other. So they wouldn’t just cancel out, but you also aren’t getting numbers really. Numbers have very little to do with Arcpoints.

                            sometimes messages on kp will just get lost, especially when you try posting links on it. Personally, I just jump around this and place a link, then make a space after the h in the beginning, then tell people to copy it and remove the space. Sometimes messages aren’t lost, and actually just take forever though, one I posted took about 2 weeks or so, but I long since reposted it in the fashion I explained.

                            If I were to make a post that didn’t contain the link and then comment the link, would that comment need to be moderated?

                            Perhaps for air you could make the air denser and lighter in specific areas, which could be very useful, I’ll have to think more on something else though.

                            Oh yeah, that’s a good idea, something to do with density or pressure could be cool. The Laws of Thermodynamics might have good inspiration for me now that I think about it. Thanks!

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                            TheArcaneAxiom
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                              @jonas

                              I do kind of want to keep fire, water, earth, and air.

                              Sounds good, just thought I’d point it out.

                              Celestiar mostly follows the rules of our universe, so in most cases, I don’t think I’m going to explain real natural phenomenon with magical rules I invented, so I don’t think that would be the case.

                              So if that’s the case, are the different magic systems derived from natural phenomenon, secretly akin to science fiction? Or is magic an entirely different entity on its own?

                              So Arcpoints don’t work like simple math. For example, an Arcpoint can be given a specific charge, but two opposite Arcpoints with unequal charges will still cap each other. So they wouldn’t just cancel out, but you also aren’t getting numbers really. Numbers have very little to do with Arcpoints.

                              Alright.

                              If I were to make a post that didn’t contain the link and then comment the link, would that comment need to be moderated?

                              I think so, from what I can recall, there tends to be mixed results for some reason. KP isn’t always the most well maintained, especially recently.

                              Oh yeah, that’s a good idea, something to do with density or pressure could be cool. The Laws of Thermodynamics might have good inspiration for me now that I think about it. Thanks!

                              Your welcome! Yeah, the Laws of Thermodynamics would be great inspiration!

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                                @highscribeofaetherium @thearcaneaxiom

                                This is a cool little magic ability that I worked out. It isn’t really big enough to call it a “system” yet, but it’s a start.

                                Mass-shifting

                                The user can shift mass from different parts of their body into other parts. This would allow them to strengthen part of them while weakening another part. For example, you could shift mass from the rest of your body into one arm for a stronger punch. It would also let you change your center of mass. You could lift yourself with one arm by shifting all your mass into that arm.

                                It’s not much, but for one power, I think it is really cool.

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                                  @jonas

                                  That’s a cool concept! Although my sister has been playing with basically the exact same idea, although it’s more unique to bone mass then body mass as a whole, but the end effect would be similar.

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