A Good Joust

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    Rolena Hatfield
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      Hello all!
      I’ve been doing some research on medieval jousting. Does anyone know if there was a limit to how many people could compete? Or an average?

      Also feel free to comment any interesting facts you know about jousting that I may not have come across yet.

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      #21355
      Jackson Graham
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        @rolena-hatfield

        Actually, I’ve seen a jousting tournament at a Renaissance fair awhile back! I don’t think there were any limits on how many people could enter, as long as they were supporting their liege lord in the lists (on the jousting field). If anybody says otherwise, know that I am not an expert in everything medieval, but I have a general idea. 🙂

        Hope that helps!

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        #21356
        Rolena Hatfield
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          @warrioroftherealm

          Thank you! My dad took me to a Renaissance fair a long time ago and I’m pulling some inspiration from that as well as blogs and historical sites online.
          I appreciate the help!

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          #21357
          Snapper
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            @rolena-hatfield Have you ever seen The Sword in the Stone? It’s not entirely about jousting, but it has a scene or two with it. I know that squires keep all of the Knight’s items and anything they need. When a knight is dismounted, they move onto sword-fighting. That’s really all I know… Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.

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            #21361
            Rolena Hatfield
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              @dragon-snapper
              I have seen that movie! Didn’t think of that one. Thanks! I also thought about Ivan Hoe, but haven’t read that book in a long while. My younger brother’s reading it right now for school so maybe he can give me some inspiration.

              Yeah I learned that there are three stages between two knights if one can’t best the other. 1) they get only three lances, but get four passes and if one doesn’t knock the other off the horse 2) They get four passes with the weapon of choice and finally 3) dismount and the sword fighting begins.

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              #21363
              Kate Flournoy
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                @Rolena-Hatfield I don’t know the answer to that specific question, though I suspect it very much depends on whether it was a formal joust (or even a royal joust) or a rougher, livelier joust hosted by a baron or some other ‘petty’ lord. ‘Country’ jousts were rough and probably a lot less organized. Royal jousts were merely for the show of it, really. 😛 In formal jousting, once the helmet was struck off a knight was considered defeated. Things could actually get really rough in less formal competition.

                Rolena Hatfield
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                  @kate-flournoy Very true. I didn’t know the helmet thing. (for lack of better words right now :p)
                  This is a royal joust because I did wish it to be much more organized and less “rough”. Thank you!


                  @warrioroftherealm
                  @daeus Do you know anything about flail weapons in a joust setting?

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                  #21368
                  Kate Flournoy
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                    @Rolena-Hatfield you’re welcome. 🙂 It was either you could unhorse them with a blow to their shield or knock their helmet off. Unhorsing by the shield is most common and most convenient, as the jousting helmet is designed specifically to turn such blows. There is no flat surface to land a solid blow save for a tiny tip where all the slopes of the helmet come together just beneath the ‘eye-slit’. (It has a fancy Latin name but I don’t remember how to spell it. 😛 ) The tip of the lance has to hit the helmet just there for heaviest impact. Sometimes, though, if the blow was heavy and true enough, the knight was both unhelmed and unhorsed.

                    Daeus
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                      @rolena-hatfield I’m no expert in jousting, but I do think flails were sometimes used in jousts. The advantage of a flail is that it can whip around an opponent’s shield, but they are hard to wield and bad for defense. Anything specific you wanted to know?

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                      #21400
                      Rolena Hatfield
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                        @daeus I was trying to find the site where I first read about flail weapons being used in a joust, but it’s been lost to cyber space and not to be found in my browser history. I was specifically wondering where the knight would strike his opponent, if it’s the same as the lance? (shield and helm)

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                        #21404
                        Daeus
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                          @rolena-hatfield Ah. Unfortunately, I don’t know about that. 🙁

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                          #21406
                          Rolena Hatfield
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                            @daeus No problem! I shall continue the search in cyber space for the site with more vigor. 🙂

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