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September 26, 2017 at 8:13 pm #45733
Heya Kapeefers!
I needeth opinions.
After various consideration, Iâve come across the conclusion that perhaps some sci-fi and fantasy names are a bit toâŚcrazy.
I mean, the most famous names in fiction are Harry and Luke and Frodo and Bilbo. None of which are overly complicated or hard to pronounce.
So what about you? What do you think is too complex for a name? What makes a memorable name? What makes the pronunciation not-hard?
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September 26, 2017 at 8:25 pm #45737@dragon-snapper *nods* Well for starts alien are sometimes peppered with zâs, xâs, wâs, qâs, and/or several yâs they seem to be harder to rememberâŚ
Names that are very similar can be confused.
When you see the name are you reading it (as in pronouncing it in your head. Later you can say it possibly.) or are you just looking at the letters (as in you see the word and donât really read it, instead you just look at the beginning and ending letters and your brain says that them.)?
If you wonder if they are difficult, say the names out loud.Memorable names are names you can remember.
Is that helpful? *waits patiently*
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September 26, 2017 at 8:32 pm #45739@dragon-snapper First off, I LOVE NAMES! I seriously just browse baby name websites for fun.
Anyways, back to your question. For me, a name is too complex if you canât pronounce it easily. *trying to think of an example but canât because I can never remember complex names*INFJ ~ 4w5
aldarley.wordpress.comSeptember 26, 2017 at 8:45 pm #45750@dragon-snapper I personally use this site and just play with alterations on the different names the site generates until I find the one that works for me: https://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/ The most important thing for me is finding names that all seem to have a similar vibe/similar culture behind them in a story.
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September 26, 2017 at 9:11 pm #45763@dragon-snapper Ok, I am going to ramble, so brace yourselves. I pretty much know nothing about the topic that I will now ramble about. This is all from my observation, so use at your own risk. đ Alrighty, using a âyâ instead of an âiâ is very cool right now, but itâs a kind feels âforced,â like youâre trying too hard to be cool. Go for something that sounds unique and interesting when you say it out loud, and doesnât depend of weird spelling to be cool. Second of all, I confess that my eyes will glance over names that are too complicated, because taking time to figure out what a long word says is something I do when I read science textbooks, not fantasy. đ So, donât write names that people have to go too much out their way to read, because they might not. Also, make names that most everyone will pronounce the same. Itâs just awkward for your fans to try to talk about your book, but pronouncing the charactersâ names differently. Oh, and donât use names that start with the same letter for characters that might get mixed up. *looks at post* Wow, I rambled quite a bit, didnât I? đ BUT ELOQUENTLY. *laughs at self* Hope that is the least bit helpful!
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September 26, 2017 at 9:26 pm #45772Hereâs the dealâ-I donât worry about this much. That being said, hereâs what I do sometimes, just to make things interesting.
Take the name Kiara. Itâs got a bunch of different variationsâŚKiera, Kyra, Kira⌠sometimes, playing with the spelling is super fun.
Thatâs what I do, at least.
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September 26, 2017 at 9:32 pm #45775Anonymous- Rank: Eccentric Mentor
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@dragon-snapper Basically what they said. Try to not make it too, well, forced sounding. Try not to use too many letters that are difficult or controversial to pronounce. Choose something memorable and unique, but not too âalien.â Does that make sense?
September 27, 2017 at 9:52 pm #45872@Dragon-snapper, I honestly donât think the names matter too much. itâs the character that makes the name memorable, not vice versa. For example, the names Harry and Percy are now instantly recognisable as fantasy names, because of Harry Potter and Percy Jackson, but there are probably heaps of average, ordinary men (maybe even women) named Harry or Percy. We remember Harry not because of his name, but because of who he is.
like pretty much everyone has already said, names that arenât too weird are great. Frodo is a name that no one would ever have in real life, so it brings to mind a fantasy setting, but its easy to pronounce and it doesnât hurt your head. Even Tolkienâs elves, for the most part, have names that are easy to say: Arwen, Galadriel, Legolas, Elrond.
Iâve been reading a lot of French literature at the moment, and one of the things I really struggle with are silent letters. I hate silent letters and sounds, so I prefer books with names and words that donât have weird accents and silent things (*glares in the general direction of Christopher Paolini*). It takes me a lot to get used to names like that (the name Eowyn, for example. Itâs said A-o-winn, but in my head I always read it as Ee-o-winn).
Sorry for the long reply, Iâm extremely passionate about names.
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September 27, 2017 at 10:15 pm #45878Sweet! I love names myself, @dragon-snapper. And I have one, big fat tip for you:
DO NOT EVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE ZâS OR XâS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read a book recently where almost half of the âfantasy wordsâ had Xâs or Zâs in them, and it was painful. (On the strain of the âfantasy wordsâ, do not use too many!!! That book did that too, and that was just painful. Even more than the name Jaxter Grimjinxx)
I like names that are flowy, airy, delicate sounding. Like Eowyn.(yeah, I know. @seekjustice) Or Catriona, or Saoirse, or Brynn. (Not Saoirse though, because no one will even know what it is.)
Hope this helps! *bows, and speeds off into the night*
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https://forums.theaetherliSeptember 28, 2017 at 7:39 am #45896Oh goodness, names⌠what makes them too much⌠letâs see.
Iâd say that most everything has already been said- I especially agree with Josiah about making sure the names sound like theyâre from a similar culture for everyone within the same culture of your story. But then, maybe you have someone with a name from a different culture, and maybe it is or isnât different enough that everyone can tell just from hearing it itâs a foreign name. Just a thought *shrugs* Also, I think itâs okay to have semi-long names if theyâre easy to pronounce- if you really want someone to have a long name that you think might be a bit much, just make it their âformalâ name and give them a nickname as well. Things like that.
Iâd also like to say that fantasy names donât have to be so different at all; like you said, the most famous arenât extremely unique or unusual. I actually have a fantasy Iâm (kind of) working on thatâs based off of old English culture, with possibly a splash of Jewish, so most of the names are pretty normal, with one or two slightly unique- Emma, Deric, Sir Algernon Ashenburl, Cole, Lord Valron, Aziel⌠đ"Courage is action in spite of fear."
September 28, 2017 at 12:43 pm #45900@Dragon-Snapper I LOVE NAMES. I NAME EVERYTHING.
*coughs*
With that crucial bit of random information out of the way, Iâd tend to agree with you. The best fantasy names are those that donât look so absolutely foreign theyâre impossible to relate to. The name should describe your character, not overshadow him. Personally I love old Norse, Saxon, and Germanic names. Good olâ two-syllable ones like Conrad and Dunstan and Harold and Lindon and Larkan and Morna andâ yeah you get it. A name doesnât have to be âweirdâ to qualify as different and intriguing. Cultural matching is super important, but even then you donât need the weird ones to make them sufficient. Study languages that belong to similar cultures and dissect the names to their roots and up again. You can simplify just about any name without taking away its root meaning, regardless of the founding language.And when you do need a bit more of a âweirdâ name, still donât go for the silent letters or skimp on the vowelsâ thatâs Walesâs job. đ The weirdest name Iâve used to date is Trevelian. Itâs beautiful and has plenty of character, but the word structure is normal and you can see at a glance how itâs said.
So yeah. Basically, I agree.
@dragon-snapper The is a name site where you can search for names from different places. http://www.behindthename.com If you need to look up namesâŚ
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